I cannot morally support the purchase for any notebook that doesn't have a 3.5mm jack. If you're actually super-duper thin and light, then MAYBE, but this is just a normal ultrabook.
for me, this is another reminder of how dumb the laptop market is
– 15w chip means one heatpipe for you. and one 6k rpm tiny cooler. this is the law.
– but i dont wanna hear 40db noise, cmon its a 15w, i can cool it down by blowing on it. ok how much for the extra heatpipe and extra low-rpm cooler, 10 dollars..50? im ready to pay
– NO
ask for the help. reddit, discord, youtube. not realy a bid deal(i think) for an average programmer and hardware enthusiast. you can make a more simplistic ratings than, lets say, notebookcheck. much less laptop numbers than there.. database is not the biggest part of what you did already.
Nuno
August 10, 2020 at 11:43 am
On the asus website, it says that the SSD is x2, but in your review they say it is x4. Which one will be right? It seems to me that ssd is the same in both versions (amd and intel).
Thanks for the review! There is another dealbreaker at least for me. You can only get 32GB for Ram on the Intel version, not the AMD one. I wonder how much Intel paid Asus on this…
I really need ASAP suggestion for laptop.I am a post-grad student who has to do programming for project which is mostly related to Machine Learning (python programming),matlab programming and xilinx(verilog programming).
I am currently using ASUS S550C laptop and have to buy a laptop which can help me with smooth completion of my degree.I need to buy soon.and i am unable to decide what will be good.One thing is for sure i loved the idea of numpad on mousepad.That's cool what i found.My budget is upto Rs.70,000(~800 euro).Please help.
I would recommend Lenovo Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 4800H and an upgrade to 16 GB RAM. Maybe a bit over your budget but it will do MATLAB fine. It has 15.6" screen with a numpad on the keyboard as well. Python shouldn't be a problem, but for MATLAB, if you have to compile thousands lines of code over days, a powerful CPU and a good heat management will play a big part. I've been there before. Cheers.
Chris, I'm sorry but the Lenovo is a big chunk of s**t even if its powerfull, its so big and thick, Its just better to just buy a Desktop PC already, its not portable at all for a programming student.
''with the SSD only running at excellent mid-40s with games.''
In the Intel version review you were talking about ''we measured high temperatures of around 65 C in our storage tests, and average temperatures in the 53-58 degrees''
It sounds like this AMD version runs a cooler ssd, but ofcourse gaming is different then a storage test, but gaming is more heavy then the average temp of 53-58 degress I think.
So am I right if I see this one runs much cooler?
PS Keep up the good work, outstanding reviews! (Im already reading for like 3 hours haha)
yea, I don't have a clear explanation for that, but the SSD seems to runs hotter in the Intel models that I've tested. Might be the different drives, maybe some are better at dissipating heat that others.
Any news from ASUS on wether the different keyboards were intentional or not?
.. And currently using a Macbook Pro (before butterfly of course), I must say, a big concern for me with an ultrabook is the quality of the touchpad (and keyboard). The display can be bright and beautiful, but if the touchpad feels unresponsive and poor, even while the keyboard is great, that breaks the entire experience for me.
– So, since I do not have any way of testing it without ordering it myself: Compared to a macbook touchpad, how does this one hold up?
I'm very much interested to pick this unit up but i have a few questions
1) Does the HDMI 2.0 or USB-C ports support 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz?
2) How does Vega compared to latest 11th Gen Tiger Lake Xe graphics? i play some basic game like CSGO and Dota 2, can i expect consistent 80-100fps at 1080p setting?
3) Can the screen be calibrated using Spyder? If yes, how accurate can that be calibrated to?
4) Do you have an update on the 400nits screen?
1. Haven't tried it but it should. Runs 1440P+ at 60 Hz just fine, but I don't have a faster monitor.
2 and 4: See this for comparison,the screens and gaming sections: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/41841-asus-zenbook-14-ux425ea-review/#a4 . Haven't tested CS:GO, but Dota 2 should be there if you trim the details towards min. Tiger Lake is generally a little faster, but depends on the implementation.
3. Should be. I'd expect the same results as what we got with the Spyder.
Excellent review! I like your attention to detail and the wealth of information you provide in all your reviews.
I have two questions:
1) Is the USB jack adapter an USB sound card, or it's passive?
2) How is the screen seen in the standard Windows 10 Advanced display settings or via hwinfo: 6-bit, or 8-bit?
My local store only sells a version with 8 GB of RAM. Is there any way of upgrading RAM or SSD in this laptop? You mention that your version came with 16 GB of RAM in dual-channel.
My Zenbook UM425IA screen flickers at low brightness,
The display is really unusable at low brightness.
Is there any remedy for this?
I have updated BIOS, Display adapter drivers everything.
But the problem persists.
WARNING: You may think that the UM425IA is a great deal because on Newegg (https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834235516), this model has 16GB RAM, a 1TB SSD, and a "better" Ryzen CPU over the Intel model, the UX425JA. Both are the same price at this writing, $900 USD.
However, there are quite a few unhappy buyers. the UM425IA has an inferior screen (200 nits vs 400 nits) that uses more battery to reach the same brightness (which disagrees with this review), and due to the "better" CPU, it overheats more easily, causing the fans to run at full blast all the time, and some people even have stability issues. It also doesn't support Thunderbolt.
This is a case where more isn't better. My UX425JA has none of the issues described in the UM425IA reviews. If you want specs and power, go with the UM425IA. If you want actual stability and reliability, and a better screen, go with the UX425JA.
Thanks for the feedback. It's true Asus puts a more efficient and higher brightness screen on the Intel versions, which uses about 1W of energy per hour, while this standard panel on the AMD model is about 2.5W. This will matter with video streaming and light use, but not as much as you'd saying imo.
As for the other part, AMD's processors are a lot more efficient per wat than Intel's. Interesting about the stability issue and noise spikes, something for people to further look into.
With 36% of ratings at 1/5 or 2/5 on Newegg, it's enough to make someone pause, as that is too high for comfort. Compare against the Vivobook 14 F412DA with 11% of ratings at 1/5 or 2/5. Unfortunately, there's no sample size for the UX425JA because it was the "inferior" model with half the RAM and SSD capacity. I suppose that may be why the UX425JA was aggressively discounted from $900 to $750 during the Christmas holidays.
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LHPSU
August 8, 2020 at 7:03 pm
I cannot morally support the purchase for any notebook that doesn't have a 3.5mm jack. If you're actually super-duper thin and light, then MAYBE, but this is just a normal ultrabook.
LHPSU
August 8, 2020 at 7:05 pm
On a sidenote, Asus seems to have an obsession with producing products that are perfect in every way, except for one deal-breaker for me.
william blake
August 8, 2020 at 9:30 pm
for me, this is another reminder of how dumb the laptop market is
– 15w chip means one heatpipe for you. and one 6k rpm tiny cooler. this is the law.
– but i dont wanna hear 40db noise, cmon its a 15w, i can cool it down by blowing on it. ok how much for the extra heatpipe and extra low-rpm cooler, 10 dollars..50? im ready to pay
– NO
william blake
August 8, 2020 at 9:35 pm
i forgot…man, you need a database. it's a shame that no one returns to this place to compare hardware.
Andrei Girbea
August 9, 2020 at 9:56 am
that's something we've been considering for years, but never got the resources to do it till now
william blake
August 9, 2020 at 12:48 pm
ask for the help. reddit, discord, youtube. not realy a bid deal(i think) for an average programmer and hardware enthusiast. you can make a more simplistic ratings than, lets say, notebookcheck. much less laptop numbers than there.. database is not the biggest part of what you did already.
Nuno
August 10, 2020 at 11:43 am
On the asus website, it says that the SSD is x2, but in your review they say it is x4. Which one will be right? It seems to me that ssd is the same in both versions (amd and intel).
Andrei Girbea
August 10, 2020 at 11:55 am
Yes, I noticed that too, but my unit came with a PCIe x4 drive as mentioned and illustrated in the article
Nuno
August 10, 2020 at 11:58 am
Okay, but it's weird
Julz
August 12, 2020 at 5:10 pm
Thanks for the review! There is another dealbreaker at least for me. You can only get 32GB for Ram on the Intel version, not the AMD one. I wonder how much Intel paid Asus on this…
Peter
August 16, 2020 at 3:44 pm
So most probably this is the choice…
Awaiting for Lenovo Slim 7 availability makes me angry every new week.
This Asus looks like a fair competitor.
Aastha P
August 17, 2020 at 5:44 pm
I really need ASAP suggestion for laptop.I am a post-grad student who has to do programming for project which is mostly related to Machine Learning (python programming),matlab programming and xilinx(verilog programming).
I am currently using ASUS S550C laptop and have to buy a laptop which can help me with smooth completion of my degree.I need to buy soon.and i am unable to decide what will be good.One thing is for sure i loved the idea of numpad on mousepad.That's cool what i found.My budget is upto Rs.70,000(~800 euro).Please help.
Chris
September 5, 2020 at 8:34 pm
I would recommend Lenovo Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 4800H and an upgrade to 16 GB RAM. Maybe a bit over your budget but it will do MATLAB fine. It has 15.6" screen with a numpad on the keyboard as well. Python shouldn't be a problem, but for MATLAB, if you have to compile thousands lines of code over days, a powerful CPU and a good heat management will play a big part. I've been there before. Cheers.
Daniel
September 12, 2020 at 12:08 pm
Chris, I'm sorry but the Lenovo is a big chunk of s**t even if its powerfull, its so big and thick, Its just better to just buy a Desktop PC already, its not portable at all for a programming student.
Elena
August 24, 2020 at 12:42 am
Hi! Can you review Huawei’s Matebook D14? Thanks!
Brian
September 3, 2020 at 1:42 pm
''with the SSD only running at excellent mid-40s with games.''
In the Intel version review you were talking about ''we measured high temperatures of around 65 C in our storage tests, and average temperatures in the 53-58 degrees''
It sounds like this AMD version runs a cooler ssd, but ofcourse gaming is different then a storage test, but gaming is more heavy then the average temp of 53-58 degress I think.
So am I right if I see this one runs much cooler?
PS Keep up the good work, outstanding reviews! (Im already reading for like 3 hours haha)
Andrei Girbea
September 3, 2020 at 11:13 pm
yea, I don't have a clear explanation for that, but the SSD seems to runs hotter in the Intel models that I've tested. Might be the different drives, maybe some are better at dissipating heat that others.
Daniel
September 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm
Is there any performance improve in the retail model?
Palmer
September 26, 2020 at 8:48 am
where can i buy the one with 1w display
Søren Jensen
September 27, 2020 at 1:44 am
Any news from ASUS on wether the different keyboards were intentional or not?
.. And currently using a Macbook Pro (before butterfly of course), I must say, a big concern for me with an ultrabook is the quality of the touchpad (and keyboard). The display can be bright and beautiful, but if the touchpad feels unresponsive and poor, even while the keyboard is great, that breaks the entire experience for me.
– So, since I do not have any way of testing it without ordering it myself: Compared to a macbook touchpad, how does this one hold up?
Andrei Girbea
September 28, 2020 at 9:57 am
The touchpad is fine, but not MacBook level. It's smooth and responsive imo on the few recent zenBook samples that I've tested
Chris
October 8, 2020 at 4:39 pm
I cannot find 1W display option in any shop in Europe.
Was that a hoax?
Andrei Girbea
October 8, 2020 at 4:57 pm
No hoax, but probably not available yet. Can't say when it will be, though
moogholland
October 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm
You can find it in germany
Pankaj Pandey
October 16, 2020 at 10:52 pm
I am planning to do programming on this machine. Will it be good ?
Dylan
November 5, 2020 at 1:53 pm
I'm very much interested to pick this unit up but i have a few questions
1) Does the HDMI 2.0 or USB-C ports support 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz?
2) How does Vega compared to latest 11th Gen Tiger Lake Xe graphics? i play some basic game like CSGO and Dota 2, can i expect consistent 80-100fps at 1080p setting?
3) Can the screen be calibrated using Spyder? If yes, how accurate can that be calibrated to?
4) Do you have an update on the 400nits screen?
Andrei Girbea
November 5, 2020 at 2:05 pm
1. Haven't tried it but it should. Runs 1440P+ at 60 Hz just fine, but I don't have a faster monitor.
2 and 4: See this for comparison,the screens and gaming sections: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/41841-asus-zenbook-14-ux425ea-review/#a4 . Haven't tested CS:GO, but Dota 2 should be there if you trim the details towards min. Tiger Lake is generally a little faster, but depends on the implementation.
3. Should be. I'd expect the same results as what we got with the Spyder.
Crb
November 8, 2020 at 12:38 am
@Andrei, spune mi te rog o părere intre Huawei matebook 14 r5 16gb 512gb vs Asus Zenbook r5 8gb 512gb
Andrei Girbea
November 9, 2020 at 11:08 am
I haven"t reviewed the MateBook 14 with the 2020 Ryzen hardware, so can't comment on it
Daniel Grigoras
November 21, 2020 at 4:39 pm
How about comparing it to Tiger Lake rather than Ice Lake?
Dan Cosma
November 25, 2020 at 11:58 pm
Excellent review! I like your attention to detail and the wealth of information you provide in all your reviews.
I have two questions:
1) Is the USB jack adapter an USB sound card, or it's passive?
2) How is the screen seen in the standard Windows 10 Advanced display settings or via hwinfo: 6-bit, or 8-bit?
Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
Andrei Girbea
November 26, 2020 at 11:07 am
thanks for the kind words.
1. Just a passive USB-C to 3.5 mm
2. 8 bit
A.
December 16, 2020 at 6:24 pm
You talk about two different types of screen panels. When ordering this laptop, how could one know which panel it is equipped with?
Andrei Girbea
December 16, 2020 at 6:26 pm
You could ask the store for the panel number, but that aside, there's no other way.
DK
January 15, 2021 at 9:39 am
My local store only sells a version with 8 GB of RAM. Is there any way of upgrading RAM or SSD in this laptop? You mention that your version came with 16 GB of RAM in dual-channel.
Abhinav
January 18, 2021 at 3:07 pm
My Zenbook UM425IA screen flickers at low brightness,
The display is really unusable at low brightness.
Is there any remedy for this?
I have updated BIOS, Display adapter drivers everything.
But the problem persists.
Gippy
January 29, 2021 at 3:35 pm
WARNING: You may think that the UM425IA is a great deal because on Newegg (https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834235516), this model has 16GB RAM, a 1TB SSD, and a "better" Ryzen CPU over the Intel model, the UX425JA. Both are the same price at this writing, $900 USD.
However, there are quite a few unhappy buyers. the UM425IA has an inferior screen (200 nits vs 400 nits) that uses more battery to reach the same brightness (which disagrees with this review), and due to the "better" CPU, it overheats more easily, causing the fans to run at full blast all the time, and some people even have stability issues. It also doesn't support Thunderbolt.
This is a case where more isn't better. My UX425JA has none of the issues described in the UM425IA reviews. If you want specs and power, go with the UM425IA. If you want actual stability and reliability, and a better screen, go with the UX425JA.
Andrei Girbea
January 29, 2021 at 4:54 pm
Thanks for the feedback. It's true Asus puts a more efficient and higher brightness screen on the Intel versions, which uses about 1W of energy per hour, while this standard panel on the AMD model is about 2.5W. This will matter with video streaming and light use, but not as much as you'd saying imo.
As for the other part, AMD's processors are a lot more efficient per wat than Intel's. Interesting about the stability issue and noise spikes, something for people to further look into.
Gippy
January 30, 2021 at 5:51 pm
With 36% of ratings at 1/5 or 2/5 on Newegg, it's enough to make someone pause, as that is too high for comfort. Compare against the Vivobook 14 F412DA with 11% of ratings at 1/5 or 2/5. Unfortunately, there's no sample size for the UX425JA because it was the "inferior" model with half the RAM and SSD capacity. I suppose that may be why the UX425JA was aggressively discounted from $900 to $750 during the Christmas holidays.
municheast
November 28, 2021 at 10:26 am
On black Friday I bought two Asus Zenbook laptopn having 400 nits for 700 Euros.
These are:
UX425 (UX425JA-HM311T):
– Intel Core i5-1035G1
– 16 GB RAM
– Thunderbolt 3
– 1.1 kg
UM425 (ASUS UM425UAZ-KI001T):
– AMD Ryzen 5 5500U
– 8 GB RAM
– No Thunderbolt
– 1.3 kg
Which one would you recommend for me (private office work, internet surfing, photo editing for photo books with non-professional software).
The laptop shall be used for 8-10 years.
That*s why I thing the version with 16 GB is better for me.
Thank you :-) :-) :-)
Andrei Girbea
November 28, 2021 at 1:55 pm
Keep the UX425 configuration with 16 GB of RAM
municheast
November 28, 2021 at 2:50 pm
Thank you. I was unsure because the UX425JA is one year older…
Roman Kuchinskiy
January 1, 2022 at 9:13 pm
I only get 6 hours on this model in battery mode etc.