Yes, hybrid mode in Vantage on this model is merely just turning on advanced Optimus. If you turn off hybrid mode, it forces the dGPU to always be on. Even in hybrid mode, you can still select between GPUs in the Nvidia menu.
I just bought one myself and am super happy with it! There really isn't much more you can ask for performance and feature wise with some minor exceptions, but those weren't a deal-breaker for me either.
For the battery, how about trying to do:
– Keyboard backlight OFF
– Brightness 50%
– Quiet Mode
– Hybrid ON (Then go to Nvidia Control -> Manage Display -> Set to "Integrated Graphics")
– Power Savings in the Battery Settings
– 60Hz refresh rate
I was able to get around 6-7hrs with that. It's a bit of a requirement but helps that have it when you're in a pinch lol.
Did you see any extra benefit to setting it to integrated graphics? It should do that automatically.
I've tried 60hz and that helps a lot. I just hate suggesting it because it's a pain in the butt to switch. Curious if Fn-R works for you because that's supposed to change the refresh rate.
I believe it still switches to dGPU even in Hybrid Mode ON thanks to Advanced Optimus. Setting “Optimus” under Manage Display in the Nvidia Control Panel just forces every application to run on the Integrated Graphics.
Also, Fn+R doesn’t work for me either. It might just be a software bug or the need of a BIOS update.
Evan
November 2, 2021 at 4:49 am
Any idea why this setting in the Intel Graphics Control Panel on my Legion 7i is now locked at 165p? I am now required to go through the Nvidia Control Panel to change the refresh rate. On top of that, the ability to select the graphics like Miracle Man referenced above has disappeared entirely from the Nvidia Control Panel.
It worked as outlined above for the first few days of ownership but has since changed.
I've seen that limitation on another Intel laptop before. Manufacturer claimed that the Intel chip couldn't handle it which I found harder to believe. Have you tried adding a custom resolution to there list?
Evan
November 3, 2021 at 5:38 am
I actually figured it out and it was pretty silly. I wasn't paying attention to whether I was in dGPU or Hybrid. In Hybrid, the settings are changed through the Intel Command Center. In dGPU mode (which I was in), some of the settings are apparently forced through the Nvidia Control panel since the computer is fully bypassing the integrated graphics.
there's a regular MUX without Advanced Optimus on both
Khaki
August 10, 2021 at 7:35 pm
I recently cancelled my Ryzen 7 / 3070 build after the delivery dates pushed out until December 22nd, and managed to order an 11800H / 3080 instead.
Thanks to your thorough review, I feel really good about that decision! Really appreciate the level of detail regarding wattage, thermals, and fan noise dbs.
Can you turn off all of the extra side lighting but still keep the keyboard backlit? Also is ThrottleStop worth using or does this laptop do a good job at doing those things with the Legion software? I used your TS guide with my X1e Gen 2 and it helped a ton.
You can, but it requires using the battery hog iCue software in order to customize it.
Without iCue and under the default system lighting there is only one "normal" lit option which is blue, but it has the blue bar underneath lit as well. There is a secret to turning it off but it involves switching to battery power first. If you hit Fn-Q to go into quiet mode it turns the lights off completely. Hitting fN-Q again restores the keyboard lighting(still blue) but leaves the light bar off. You can replace the power connection and the settings will stick even after putting the laptop through a sleep cycle.
I decided not to use Throttlestop. I didn't find it necessary yet. I'll probably fool with it in a few weeks when I have time to tweak it properly. The only thing I plan on using it for is to tune an ultra low TDP for use on battery power when I need to maximize it.
You can safely install iCUE, run it to create and activate your prefered RGB setup with static colors (for keyboard or any other area) then make sure the customized profile you want is the first in the iCUE profile list as that'll be the one that gets activated upon iCUE startup. From there you can create a batch file like below, create a shortcut for it, customize that shortcut with a shortcut key combo from its Properties (such as setting it to CTRL-ALT-K, etc) then place that shortcut in your Start Menu's Programs folder.
From then on, all you have to do is hit the keyboard combo anywhere in Windows and it'll auto-kill the iCUE process and its services while leaving the loaded RGB profile in tact (until reboot). Here's an example for an icue_kill.bat file one might use:
@ECHO OFF
REM Terminate the iCUE software process if running
taskkill /IM "iCUE.EXE" /F
REM Stop the three Corsair services if running (the first process requires admin mode to stop, the other two do not)
net stop "Corsair Gaming Audio Configuration Service" /y
net stop "Corsair LLA Service" /y
net stop "Corsair Service" /y
Point is: you can still have iCUE installed to take advantage of all the RGB goodness on your laptop (static colouring, that is, animated coloring freezes when iCUE is stopped) but still use a simple keyboard kepress to stop it from eating all of your battery runtime. When you want it back, just run it again… rinse, repeat.
May not be elegant, but its the best we can do until Corsair gets off their buts after all these years and fixes this hog (or, even better, Lenovo integrates RGB lighting controls directly in Vantage).
I've checked discord and nobody has figured out how to unlock advanced bios yet. I must be lucky that mine is unlocked. I still haven't updated the bios and now I probably won't
Christian Laguna
August 31, 2021 at 1:03 am
Hi there
Try the below link, let us know if it worked for you.
The L7 deal is really good right now making it the same price, if not cheaper than an equivalent speced L5P. I'm very happy with the L5P that I have though and there really isn't anything I need the L7 for other than the better speakers. Still sounds like they aren't amazing speakers, just better than the L5P's. My my main concern about switching is that I really like the L5P keyboard with the 1.5mm travel and concave keys. Sounds like I'd lose both on the L7 for shallower travel, flat keys. Do you like the keyboard now or still miss the L5 keyboard?
I've adjusted pretty well to this keyboard. I do miss the concave keys for sure but the former feedback makes up for it. Not that it really matters, but the RGB is a little better on the L7. The only thing I kind of miss about the L5P keys is the black color. I'm not a fan of having no contrast.
Thanks. Figure it is easy to get used to anything. I have used a Razer before and after while my fingers get more tired with the flat keyboard than the with the legion 5 I have also used. I'm going on the L5P being more like the L5 wheras the L7 may be more like the Razer. None of the aesthetic make a huge difference to me. Still with today's deals the L7 actually comes in at a cheaper price than I paid for a L5P with the same options. Still in the return window and it is still a hard decision. Which is crazy because the 2 systems will perform 100% the same and have the same display.
Is the travel on the keys a bit shorter on the L7 vs L5P?
I just measured it now and it's 1.2mm of key travel, nearly identical to my Razer Blade 15. The main difference is in the feedback. For both keyboards, it takes 55g to depress the key. But on the L7, the springs are a little different ant lift a little more naturally. The Razer Blade keys spring back when the force is dropped to 30g, while the L7 keys lift back at 15g. Hard to explain, but the key doesn't fight back as much on the L7, making it feel like it's easier to depress the key and to tell if it's depressed.
I don't take these measurements anymore(I used to do this for every laptop but it's a tedious test and offers little reward). I would describe the L5P keyboard to be a little "mushier" though mainly because the lift back force is probably somewhere smaller than 15g. It wasn't bad – I've certainly had worse. But the keystroke depth makes up for it for sure.
Tough call because I was ok with both Lenovo keyboards. But I type much better on the L7 than I did on the Razer Blade 15 and I've had that laptop for nearly 2 years now. for the RB15, I would occasionally miss keystrokes, which I attribute to the feedback force being too high and not getting a "full" keystroke in.
Mr. Belvedere
September 3, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Couldn't reply to the comment to the comment. Great info. Wouldn't even know how to begin measuring key travel. One other question. Have you tried the L7 slim? Best buy has it on display. I'm thinking the L7 and L7 slim have the same keyboard. Closest I'll come to testing our an L7. I liked it. Did noticed the flat keys, less travel and more snap/spring back
I haven't tried it but I might be in the area this weekend. If I am, I'll give it a try and will let you know.
Mr. Belvedere
September 4, 2021 at 12:20 am
Cool, let me know what you think. I tried it out and a Legion 5 at my local BB. They didn't have a L5P, but I think the L5 is similar. Different feeling keyboards. I can't really say which was better.
Keep an eye on deal sites like Slickdeals. If you put an alert in, it'll email you if a deal pops up. Lenovo.com just had a 3080 Ryzen version on sale for roughly $2400 a few days back. I'm sure the 3070 version has also had sales. Good luck
I just got a Legion 5 Pro because I got a really good deal and I really like it so far! I was also looking at the Legion 7, but that was not available for a long time and I felt the difference was not so big between the two.
I also have the BOE NE160QDM-NY1 display panel and it is really bright and the colors look good!
I was a bit sensitive with PWM in the past, in another laptop review I read that the panel does not have any PWM – did you by any chance check that? I don't really have proper measurment tools (or knowledge) to see if the display uses PWM .
Would appreciate your reply and thanks again for the review!
As much as we're trying to keep our testing consistent between us, I run a couple more benchmarks than Derek does in his reviews. Hence, no Blender or Specviewperf here.
I have run Blender benchmarks on my Legion 7i (i7, 32GB, 3080 16GB model) but only for OptiX rendering. The GPU in this thing is extremely impressive with only the 3090 and 3080ti consistently beating it. Let me know if you want me to run a particular benchmark for you.
Sid
September 10, 2021 at 6:29 pm
A few questions. Trying to configure this laptop to be an all rounder/applicable for versatile use. A little bit of everything done well. Advice much appreciated!
1. Will i9 11980 HK be overkill for this laptop? Does i7CPU provide a better balance of performance and lower batter power consumption?
2. Given RAM issues, should I just go for the stock 16GB that comes installed from Lenovo and upgrade the RAM to 32GB with a dual rank RAM on my own?
3. Is RTX 3080 GPU that much better than RTX 3070 for the additional $700 cost?
1. Yes, the CPU is overkill. The i7 is probably fine, although I don't know if the power profiles are the same. I really liked the quiet profile on this model since it still was playable for all games.
Power consumption is probably negligible though.
2. The 32gb kit is fine with me on this model. I've tested the AMD model too and swapping out the RAM made no difference on performance. If you go the 16gb route, you'll have to upgrade but the 32gb models are fine as is.
3. Absolutely not. It's only good because it's so higher powered and a lighter pill to swallow than the 3070/80 difference on other models. But $700 different, no way. But also consider that the top tiered model has an extre ssd, more ram and a "better" CPU. So that plays into the cost difference too. Another option is the AMD model, which went on sale for just over $2400 a week ago. Given that choice, I would say the 3080 model is the way to go. The AMD model has a couple cons to it though which I'm still working on an article for. Given the choice, I'd pick AMD though, especially if you can find it significantly cheaper
Thanks Derek. Does the 3080 (160 Watts) GPU get bottlenecked by the i7 11800H CPU or is this pairing ok for the Legion 7i?
I will also be keen to understand your perspective on the difference between the AMD configuration and the Intel. Did you say you will be publishing a review of the Legion 7(16") AMD soon?
No chance that is bottlenecked by any of the CPU options on these models. The CPU power is pretty overkill for most games.
I should have an article up within a week or so. I've got all the data, I just need to write it. Been super busy this week.
apw100
September 11, 2021 at 6:25 pm
1) I'd say so. The i7 version is easily undervolted/overclocked to give better than i9 performance. See Tally Ho Tech's videos on YouTube for more info.
2) The RAM isn't that bad, it's more of an issue with AMD CPUs.
3) I probably wouldn't go for the 3080 16GB model if I was only gaming but I primarily use it for GPU rendering (Blender, etc) so it's worth it for me.
Thank you very much for the review. Based on that I just have purchased a Legion 7 16ITHg6. It arrived with empty battery. After charging, the laptop turned on. Now I notice that the Laptop discharges 10-20% battery over night in a shut down state. Do you notice such bahaviour or might it be faulty?
That's not normal at all. The battery shouldn't be discharging more than 1% a day while it's off. Battery being dead on arrival like that is a red flag something is wrong hardware wise. It could be firmware too but I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem. You could check their Discord server to see if anyone else has that issue, but if it were me I'd just RMA it.
Excellent review! Can you offer some advice on finding a suitable car charger or otherwise more portable solution using the USB C port? And will it extend battery life while in use, whether regular or intensive, or is it mainly for charging while not in use?
I've ordered a 7i with i7/3070/32gb/1tb. I'm currently a light gamer interested in dabbling in video/photo editing and 3D design, and wanted a basically future-proof laptop (5+ years). In light of this, what's your opinion of these specs?
I actually have one coming in on Monday. If it works, I'll report back. My older PD car chargers and my PD power bank don't work with this USB port – only my newer GaN charger. Perhaps older PD protocols aren't supported?
Good specs on that model. 3080 is overkill and over priced. I think the 3060 is probably fine for almost anyone who doesn't do heavy gaming. A 3070 will be futureproof for the 5 years you are intending to use the machine though. Same with the CPU. Good luck with your new purchase!
Thanks! Looking forward to hearing more about the USB C charger you have on order, assuming it works.
What really sold me on this laptop (in addition to the great specs and appearance, etc.) was the new 16" 16:10 screen. Been trying out a 5i Pro with the same screen, and it's as good as everyone says.
A little disappointed with lack of USB A on either side, but maybe a non-issue if/when USB C fingerprint readers become more common. Happen to know of any good Windows Hello ones with USB C?
Yeah, I was kind of bummed they didn't have the USB-A port on the right hand side like the 5 Pro. I really don't need 3 USB-C, especially since the right one doesn't support Thunderbolt or charging…
Never used an external fingerprint reader, sorry. I've adapted to just using the pin on this model. You can set up the laptop to boot when you open the lid, and by the time you get it open, you can type your pin in right away. Takes 2 seconds and no need to touch the power button.
Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of getting a Jackery 1000 or 1500, and keeping it in the car for use in a pinch.
Heck, get the solar panels that go with it, and you could game or edit video just about anywhere!
Elrondolio
September 21, 2021 at 5:30 am
You'll want a cable that has an E-marker chip in it to successfully support up to the 100W (20V at 5A) that these Legions support. I use the following cables successfully with my PD charger on my Legion 7 AMD as they do up to 100W while also supporting Gen 2 transfer speeds (10Gbps) and video (4K@60 at minimum):
Fasgear 90-Degree Type C 10Gbps speed 4K@60Hz Video Output 100W 5A Power Delivery
amazon.com/gp/product/B08FXZLHJ9
TDBT USB-C to USB-C & Thunderbolt 3 Universal Cable, 100W Power Delivery, DisplayPort DP 1.4, 4K/5K/6K/8K 60Hz Monitor Cord, 10Gbps Data Transfer
amazon.com/gp/product/B08C28GSKH
There are other cables as well, of course, but make sure whatever you pick has an E-marker chip.
For reference, here's the GaN 100W PD charger I use, it's very versatile:
Hyphen-X 100W 4-Port GaN Fast Wall Charger
amazon.com/Charger-Hyphen-X-Charging-Laptops-Compatible/dp/B08X42DRMR
Thanks so much, Derek, for your excellent review.
Eric H.
November 17, 2021 at 3:46 am
Derek, a quick note regarding USB-C charging. I purchased the Hyphen-X charger and a Fasgear cable with E-marker chip as suggested by Elrondolio below, and happy to report that it charges my 7i with 3070 great, however only while in sleep mode or turned off.
But I also tried this on a much less expensive 7i with 3050 graphics, and it was able to charge the battery while using the laptop. The convenience of being able to charge via USB-C while in use seems like an important selling point for the 3050 version, assuming one can get by with more of an entry-level GPU (by today's standards).
Eric H.
November 17, 2021 at 3:55 am
Apologies, the laptop with 3050 graphics that was able to charge via USB-C while in use was the Legion 5i Pro and not a 7i (I don't believe Lenovo even makes a 7i with 3050 graphics, but I could be wrong).
Yoong
October 4, 2021 at 7:17 pm
Hi.
Could you please answer a few questions? I’m not good with computers.
I bought a Lenovo Legion 7i 16” (2021) with Core i7-11800H. It is expected to ship on 11 October.
Custom order…
RAM: 32GB (16+16) DDR4 3200 SoDIMM
Storage
Slot 1: 2TB SSD M.2 2280 G4 TLC
Slot 2: (Greyed out on the website)
1. Do I need to replace the stock RAM? I’m not sure if it’s single or dual rank.
2. I accidentally ordered 1x2TB instead of 2x1TB.
Which do you think it’s better…
(a) sell the stock Storage in first slot and put in total 3TB (Slot 1: 1TB for OS)(Slot 2: 2TB for everything else)?
(b) leave the stock Storage as it is and put in 2TB in the second slot.
(c) something you could suggest?
1. Stock RAM is most likely SR, but should be fine
2. whatever works for you. you could also just keep the drive that comes default if 2GB is enough storage space for you
Hi I have the RTX 3060 Intel version of the 7i on order. I plan to use this with my Quest 2 link cable.
I have two questions;
1) Does this configuration come with a "MUX" switch (ability to turn off hybrid mode)?
2) Does one of the USB-C ports (or USB-A for that matter) allow access directly to the dedicated graphics?
Much appreciated!
I never had that model but I'm going to go with "probably". I know other manufacturers tend to disable the MUX on their 3060 models but my Legion 5 with a 1050Ti even has a MUX switch. I'm guessing they leave it alone with all the Legion 7 models. And if that's the case, the USB-C must be routed to the dGPU otherwise they wouldn't be able to be used for external displays at all when the iGPU is disabled.
Thanks Derek, I appreciate it. I'll make sure I post back here with results once this unit arrives.
Michael E Elia
October 30, 2021 at 5:34 am
Quick (and promising update) Finally found the spec sheet on the 3060 version from Lenovo and it clearly states that the 3060 version supports Advanced Optimus, which I "believe" is that switch I'm looking for. Sorry, I'm new to this (first gaming laptop).
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Lenovo_Legion_7_16ITHg6?tab=spec
I'm not familiar with what software you use for that but I don't see why not. It's basically the best laptop CPU you can buy paired with the best laptop GPU.
Hi Derek Sullivan,
I read your writing well.
Thank you so much.
And tomorrow, I'll receive Legion 7 with intel i9 11980hk and RTX3080.
Is it must need to undervolting?
I don't think it's a must. The cooling system works fine without it. It's pretty easy to do with Intel XTU though and you get that added CPU stability for prolonged tasks. If all you're doing is gaming, there's probably little need to do it if you don't want to.
Hey Derek,
is it possible to share a small step by step instructions of your stable – 70 MV undervolting via Xtu? I'm New in this topic and pretty confused of All the possibilities in this App. So what did you really change? Many thanks in advance.
Narayanan Venugopal
November 19, 2021 at 9:16 pm
I'm really interested in the R7/RTX3070/16GB RAM/1TB SSD model of the 7i and I'm getting a pretty good deal ($1850) with the extended warranty and accidental damage coverage for 2yrs added. But I'm a little anxious about the battery life, I'll be using this laptop for uni when on battery, and I'll be doing a lot of ML work as well, is the battery life manageable for that? I'd like to avoid lugging the 300W charger if I need to carry a charger. Because the current deal that I'm getting is only on the 7i (the AMD is out of stock) is it worth it? I dont think I'd mind the extra steps to get that battery life as well.
Also, if I use a GaN charger with these laptops, will they only charge the laptop if its on sleep or idle??
(note: not considering zephyrus because I've had a pretty bad experience with that lot before, the 5 pro was attractive but I like the understated looks and all metal body design of the legion 7/7i.)
Can't really comment on the battery life with those programs because I don't use them. But assuming it's not good enough, you can at least use a GaN charger while on the go. I never take my 300w brick anywhere but the GaN charger is always in my bag if needed. It's worked out fine for me so far. The only thing you miss out on with the GaN charger is it pretends like you're still on battery so the TDP and TGP are limited. But it's no different from operating on battery anyways so it doesn't really change much.
Yeah the power on battery is more than enough for programming most of the time, but does the GaN charger actually charge the laptop when you are just browsing, or doing any word document work?
Yes, I can also confirm now that the GaN charger DOES charge the laptop while in use, just obviously slower than the 300-watt power brick. In a previous post here, I said that it would only charge the Legion 5i Pro while in use, but I was mistaken. What made me think that was the power/charging LED above the rectangular power port would flash (indicating slower charging; what I had thought meant no charging) on either a 3060 and 3070 Legion 7i laptop, but on a Legion 5i Pro with 3050 graphics the charging LED stayed on (no flash).
Still not clear exactly why that's the case or what it might mean, but the essential takeaway here is that the 100-watt GaN charger charges all of these while in normal use (meaning not while gaming or other intensive work). Would assume that it would also slow down the rate of discharge during heavier use, but can't say that definitively.
Roland
November 27, 2021 at 8:33 am
Considering where this 7i benchmarks for gaming at 1600p native resolution, I wonder how using an external 1440p monitor would affect frame rates and thermals in comparison. I am inclined to think frame rates would increase, but if lower resolution moves processing to the CPU and the vapor cooling is engineered to dissipate heat more for the GPU than CPU then a hotter CPU could potentially thermally throttle the GPU?
I'll pitch in. Temperatures should be similar and the gain in framerates rather minimal, around 5% or so. But, if you close the lid and put the laptop in a vertical stand, I'd expect the temperatures to improve.
Fantastic review and I am on the verge of ordering one of these! I notice that the max RAM is listed as being 32 GB, which seems a bit low given the processor and HM570 chipset (the Gigabyte Aero 17 YD, for example, has the same chipset and processor and supports 64 GB). My work laptop is a basic Lenovo ideapad 310 with 24 GB of RAM working fine when the max is listed as 16 GB. I don't suppose you have tested your laptop with 64 GB of RAM, have you? I plan on using it for gaming, but also for video editing and some CAD work, so the extra RAM would make a big difference.
64 GB should work. Just make sure to read some reviews and Reddit posts for the exact memory that others have installed, to avoid any compatibility surprises.
Thank you! I found the Reddit posts after I posted my question (should have googled first!!), so I went ahead and ordered. Now for 3 impatient weeks!!!
Tom
January 4, 2022 at 4:37 pm
How to stretch gaming picture vertically to get rid of black bars up and down? Some games don't suport 16:10 proportions. I'm ok with vertically stretched (deformed) objects.
Question: do you know if I would be able to connect 3 external monitors (each 2560×1440) to the legion 7, and have the laptop lid closed while using those 3 monitors? (for a work at home setup). Any suggestions as to what dock or converter cables would be needed? (I would be aiming for the intel I7 model with RTX3080).
The laptop is fine to use with the lid closed. You might have to lid the lid to wake it though – I never messed with the wake from USB option and the power button is on the inside. It only requires a slight lift though and you can close if right back when it boots. As for three monitors, I have never tested this. I know there are enough outputs and theoretically they should work fine. But you'd have to rely on using both the left and rear USB-C as thunderbolt connections. These all should support QHD fine but their ability to go above 60hz is unknown to me. Thunderbolt 4 "should" be compatible though.
Thank you very much for this review. I'm upgrading from my 6 year old MSI GTX980M laptop. i'll buy the Legion 7i but I have 2 questions that I hope you will answer.
1. Can I play Cyberpunk, Elden Ring, Starfield, Tales of Arise, Elder Scrolls Online on max settings in native resolution?
2. How will FPS be in the above games if I connect an external (27 inch, 2K) monitor to the laptop?
3. Will this laptop burn down if I play 4-6 hours on it daily for years or is it designed to handle that?
64 GB should work. Just make sure to read some reviews and Reddit posts for the exact memory that others have installed, to avoid any compatibility surprises. thanks for sharing this article.
Hi there going to buy my first gaming laptop due to working away a lot and setting up the xbox every time isn’t cutting it for me. Trying to learn and do some research before diving in head first and I like this one I think. I have found another laptop for a Similar price but with newer i9 processor and 3080ti but it’s a 17” median erazor x30. Struggling to find reviews for them in English there’s a few in German but no use. I’m wondering if it may have trouble staying cool as it seems to be a cheaper built Lenovo effectively. Any help would be much appreciated cheers
I've no experience with that chassis, but you can use Google Translate on those German articles.
That's a barebone design and it could also be sold in other markets as XPG, Vapor, XOTIC, or Eluktronics. perhaps you can try and figure out the equivalents from those brands, and find some reviews that should help.
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Necter
August 10, 2021 at 6:10 pm
Perhaps I missed it but I don't see any mention of the mux switch. The one in the Legion Vantage. Turn off Hybrid mode and reboot. Did you test that?
Derek Sullivan
August 10, 2021 at 7:12 pm
Yes, hybrid mode in Vantage on this model is merely just turning on advanced Optimus. If you turn off hybrid mode, it forces the dGPU to always be on. Even in hybrid mode, you can still select between GPUs in the Nvidia menu.
Miracle Man
August 10, 2021 at 6:20 pm
I just bought one myself and am super happy with it! There really isn't much more you can ask for performance and feature wise with some minor exceptions, but those weren't a deal-breaker for me either.
For the battery, how about trying to do:
– Keyboard backlight OFF
– Brightness 50%
– Quiet Mode
– Hybrid ON (Then go to Nvidia Control -> Manage Display -> Set to "Integrated Graphics")
– Power Savings in the Battery Settings
– 60Hz refresh rate
I was able to get around 6-7hrs with that. It's a bit of a requirement but helps that have it when you're in a pinch lol.
Derek Sullivan
August 10, 2021 at 7:14 pm
Did you see any extra benefit to setting it to integrated graphics? It should do that automatically.
I've tried 60hz and that helps a lot. I just hate suggesting it because it's a pain in the butt to switch. Curious if Fn-R works for you because that's supposed to change the refresh rate.
Miracle Man
August 12, 2021 at 5:43 am
I believe it still switches to dGPU even in Hybrid Mode ON thanks to Advanced Optimus. Setting “Optimus” under Manage Display in the Nvidia Control Panel just forces every application to run on the Integrated Graphics.
Also, Fn+R doesn’t work for me either. It might just be a software bug or the need of a BIOS update.
Evan
November 2, 2021 at 4:49 am
Any idea why this setting in the Intel Graphics Control Panel on my Legion 7i is now locked at 165p? I am now required to go through the Nvidia Control Panel to change the refresh rate. On top of that, the ability to select the graphics like Miracle Man referenced above has disappeared entirely from the Nvidia Control Panel.
It worked as outlined above for the first few days of ownership but has since changed.
Derek Sullivan
November 2, 2021 at 11:50 am
I've seen that limitation on another Intel laptop before. Manufacturer claimed that the Intel chip couldn't handle it which I found harder to believe. Have you tried adding a custom resolution to there list?
Evan
November 3, 2021 at 5:38 am
I actually figured it out and it was pretty silly. I wasn't paying attention to whether I was in dGPU or Hybrid. In Hybrid, the settings are changed through the Intel Command Center. In dGPU mode (which I was in), some of the settings are apparently forced through the Nvidia Control panel since the computer is fully bypassing the integrated graphics.
Narayanan Venugopal
November 19, 2021 at 9:06 pm
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/in/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/legion-series/legion-7-16ithg6/downloads/driver-list/component?name=Mouse,%20Pen%20and%20Keyboard
If im not wrong this software is the one to be installed for the shortcuts… found it on reddit.
patrick lanard
August 15, 2021 at 11:43 am
How do you switch the refresh rate to 60 Hz?
Derek Sullivan
August 15, 2021 at 6:01 pm
You have to do it manually through Intel graphics control center. Fn-R is supposed to do it but it's not working for anyone yet.
Swapnil Shakya
December 27, 2021 at 8:35 am
Can somebody help me with this?
I'm planning to by a legion but I'm not sure about advanced optimus.
Does 7i has both mux or advance optimus? Can a laptop has both?
And which one should I buy legion 7 or legion 7i?
Andrei Girbea
December 27, 2021 at 12:15 pm
there's a regular MUX without Advanced Optimus on both
Khaki
August 10, 2021 at 7:35 pm
I recently cancelled my Ryzen 7 / 3070 build after the delivery dates pushed out until December 22nd, and managed to order an 11800H / 3080 instead.
Thanks to your thorough review, I feel really good about that decision! Really appreciate the level of detail regarding wattage, thermals, and fan noise dbs.
Serge
August 10, 2021 at 9:22 pm
Fantastic review, im so thankful you guys are here to guide us through bunch of those choises ! Hope you can review slim version soon.
Matt
August 13, 2021 at 4:03 am
Can you turn off all of the extra side lighting but still keep the keyboard backlit? Also is ThrottleStop worth using or does this laptop do a good job at doing those things with the Legion software? I used your TS guide with my X1e Gen 2 and it helped a ton.
Your reviews are always my go to.
Derek Sullivan
August 13, 2021 at 4:15 am
You can, but it requires using the battery hog iCue software in order to customize it.
Without iCue and under the default system lighting there is only one "normal" lit option which is blue, but it has the blue bar underneath lit as well. There is a secret to turning it off but it involves switching to battery power first. If you hit Fn-Q to go into quiet mode it turns the lights off completely. Hitting fN-Q again restores the keyboard lighting(still blue) but leaves the light bar off. You can replace the power connection and the settings will stick even after putting the laptop through a sleep cycle.
I decided not to use Throttlestop. I didn't find it necessary yet. I'll probably fool with it in a few weeks when I have time to tweak it properly. The only thing I plan on using it for is to tune an ultra low TDP for use on battery power when I need to maximize it.
Elrondolio
September 6, 2021 at 11:27 am
You can safely install iCUE, run it to create and activate your prefered RGB setup with static colors (for keyboard or any other area) then make sure the customized profile you want is the first in the iCUE profile list as that'll be the one that gets activated upon iCUE startup. From there you can create a batch file like below, create a shortcut for it, customize that shortcut with a shortcut key combo from its Properties (such as setting it to CTRL-ALT-K, etc) then place that shortcut in your Start Menu's Programs folder.
From then on, all you have to do is hit the keyboard combo anywhere in Windows and it'll auto-kill the iCUE process and its services while leaving the loaded RGB profile in tact (until reboot). Here's an example for an icue_kill.bat file one might use:
@ECHO OFF
REM Terminate the iCUE software process if running
taskkill /IM "iCUE.EXE" /F
REM Stop the three Corsair services if running (the first process requires admin mode to stop, the other two do not)
net stop "Corsair Gaming Audio Configuration Service" /y
net stop "Corsair LLA Service" /y
net stop "Corsair Service" /y
Point is: you can still have iCUE installed to take advantage of all the RGB goodness on your laptop (static colouring, that is, animated coloring freezes when iCUE is stopped) but still use a simple keyboard kepress to stop it from eating all of your battery runtime. When you want it back, just run it again… rinse, repeat.
May not be elegant, but its the best we can do until Corsair gets off their buts after all these years and fixes this hog (or, even better, Lenovo integrates RGB lighting controls directly in Vantage).
Best to you all.
Derek Sullivan
September 6, 2021 at 4:02 pm
Nice, that worked great! Thanks for pointing that out.
John Dolly
August 14, 2021 at 9:59 pm
Is it possible to disconnect the rgb bar if one never wants to use it
Derek Sullivan
August 14, 2021 at 11:05 pm
See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/i43s4e/how_to_disconnect_legion_7i_lighting/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
Should still apply to this year's model
Matt
August 15, 2021 at 9:28 pm
Thank you!
txhousa
August 27, 2021 at 6:21 pm
Is it really all metal ? Did you try to disassemble internal parts to see the laptop's frame structure ?
Thanks.
Derek Sullivan
August 27, 2021 at 6:38 pm
Feels like it to me. To which part are you concerned isn't metal?
Alvin
August 28, 2021 at 3:49 am
I have legion 7i with i9 11980HK model.
And i cannot undervolt it using xtu or throttlestop as the option is disable.
Can u help me list your steps to do undervolt?
Thanks in advance ^^
Derek Sullivan
August 28, 2021 at 4:27 am
It works for me with both. By disabled do you mean the offset voltage is greyed out?
Alvin
August 28, 2021 at 9:41 am
Yap, it's grey out.
I read in internet that i need to open advanced bios and tick something.
But i cannot go to advanced bios (either by q to p method or fn+r)
Derek Sullivan
August 29, 2021 at 4:02 am
I've checked discord and nobody has figured out how to unlock advanced bios yet. I must be lucky that mine is unlocked. I still haven't updated the bios and now I probably won't
Christian Laguna
August 31, 2021 at 1:03 am
Hi there
Try the below link, let us know if it worked for you.
https://youtu.be/ecn_sKNeiKc
Derek Sullivan
August 31, 2021 at 1:41 am
That's last year's model. It doesn't work with this bios.
Andrew W
September 2, 2021 at 11:30 pm
Mine works fine (i7 model). Open Lenovo Vantage and make sure you are in Performance mode.
Mr. Belvedere
September 3, 2021 at 7:52 pm
The L7 deal is really good right now making it the same price, if not cheaper than an equivalent speced L5P. I'm very happy with the L5P that I have though and there really isn't anything I need the L7 for other than the better speakers. Still sounds like they aren't amazing speakers, just better than the L5P's. My my main concern about switching is that I really like the L5P keyboard with the 1.5mm travel and concave keys. Sounds like I'd lose both on the L7 for shallower travel, flat keys. Do you like the keyboard now or still miss the L5 keyboard?
Derek Sullivan
September 3, 2021 at 7:57 pm
I've adjusted pretty well to this keyboard. I do miss the concave keys for sure but the former feedback makes up for it. Not that it really matters, but the RGB is a little better on the L7. The only thing I kind of miss about the L5P keys is the black color. I'm not a fan of having no contrast.
Mr. Belvedere
September 3, 2021 at 8:44 pm
Thanks. Figure it is easy to get used to anything. I have used a Razer before and after while my fingers get more tired with the flat keyboard than the with the legion 5 I have also used. I'm going on the L5P being more like the L5 wheras the L7 may be more like the Razer. None of the aesthetic make a huge difference to me. Still with today's deals the L7 actually comes in at a cheaper price than I paid for a L5P with the same options. Still in the return window and it is still a hard decision. Which is crazy because the 2 systems will perform 100% the same and have the same display.
Is the travel on the keys a bit shorter on the L7 vs L5P?
Derek Sullivan
September 3, 2021 at 9:39 pm
I just measured it now and it's 1.2mm of key travel, nearly identical to my Razer Blade 15. The main difference is in the feedback. For both keyboards, it takes 55g to depress the key. But on the L7, the springs are a little different ant lift a little more naturally. The Razer Blade keys spring back when the force is dropped to 30g, while the L7 keys lift back at 15g. Hard to explain, but the key doesn't fight back as much on the L7, making it feel like it's easier to depress the key and to tell if it's depressed.
I don't take these measurements anymore(I used to do this for every laptop but it's a tedious test and offers little reward). I would describe the L5P keyboard to be a little "mushier" though mainly because the lift back force is probably somewhere smaller than 15g. It wasn't bad – I've certainly had worse. But the keystroke depth makes up for it for sure.
Tough call because I was ok with both Lenovo keyboards. But I type much better on the L7 than I did on the Razer Blade 15 and I've had that laptop for nearly 2 years now. for the RB15, I would occasionally miss keystrokes, which I attribute to the feedback force being too high and not getting a "full" keystroke in.
Mr. Belvedere
September 3, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Couldn't reply to the comment to the comment. Great info. Wouldn't even know how to begin measuring key travel. One other question. Have you tried the L7 slim? Best buy has it on display. I'm thinking the L7 and L7 slim have the same keyboard. Closest I'll come to testing our an L7. I liked it. Did noticed the flat keys, less travel and more snap/spring back
Derek Sullivan
September 3, 2021 at 10:34 pm
I haven't tried it but I might be in the area this weekend. If I am, I'll give it a try and will let you know.
Mr. Belvedere
September 4, 2021 at 12:20 am
Cool, let me know what you think. I tried it out and a Legion 5 at my local BB. They didn't have a L5P, but I think the L5 is similar. Different feeling keyboards. I can't really say which was better.
Maria
September 4, 2021 at 8:08 pm
I want this laptop but this is out of my budget, could you suggest me from where i can buy this laptop in use?
Derek Sullivan
September 4, 2021 at 8:27 pm
Keep an eye on deal sites like Slickdeals. If you put an alert in, it'll email you if a deal pops up. Lenovo.com just had a 3080 Ryzen version on sale for roughly $2400 a few days back. I'm sure the 3070 version has also had sales. Good luck
Colin
September 4, 2021 at 9:42 pm
Thanks a lot for the review, really good stuff!
I just got a Legion 5 Pro because I got a really good deal and I really like it so far! I was also looking at the Legion 7, but that was not available for a long time and I felt the difference was not so big between the two.
I also have the BOE NE160QDM-NY1 display panel and it is really bright and the colors look good!
I was a bit sensitive with PWM in the past, in another laptop review I read that the panel does not have any PWM – did you by any chance check that? I don't really have proper measurment tools (or knowledge) to see if the display uses PWM .
Would appreciate your reply and thanks again for the review!
Derek Sullivan
September 4, 2021 at 9:46 pm
I don't have the equipment to check for it unfortunately. Notebookcheck says they didn't detect any though, so I would trust in that.
Rob
September 9, 2021 at 8:39 am
I don't understand why you won't show the blender benchmarks for legion series unlike the reviews of Asus laptops where you show them.
Andrei Girbea
September 9, 2021 at 9:26 am
As much as we're trying to keep our testing consistent between us, I run a couple more benchmarks than Derek does in his reviews. Hence, no Blender or Specviewperf here.
apw100
September 11, 2021 at 6:04 pm
I have run Blender benchmarks on my Legion 7i (i7, 32GB, 3080 16GB model) but only for OptiX rendering. The GPU in this thing is extremely impressive with only the 3090 and 3080ti consistently beating it. Let me know if you want me to run a particular benchmark for you.
Sid
September 10, 2021 at 6:29 pm
A few questions. Trying to configure this laptop to be an all rounder/applicable for versatile use. A little bit of everything done well. Advice much appreciated!
1. Will i9 11980 HK be overkill for this laptop? Does i7CPU provide a better balance of performance and lower batter power consumption?
2. Given RAM issues, should I just go for the stock 16GB that comes installed from Lenovo and upgrade the RAM to 32GB with a dual rank RAM on my own?
3. Is RTX 3080 GPU that much better than RTX 3070 for the additional $700 cost?
Derek Sullivan
September 10, 2021 at 6:38 pm
1. Yes, the CPU is overkill. The i7 is probably fine, although I don't know if the power profiles are the same. I really liked the quiet profile on this model since it still was playable for all games.
Power consumption is probably negligible though.
2. The 32gb kit is fine with me on this model. I've tested the AMD model too and swapping out the RAM made no difference on performance. If you go the 16gb route, you'll have to upgrade but the 32gb models are fine as is.
3. Absolutely not. It's only good because it's so higher powered and a lighter pill to swallow than the 3070/80 difference on other models. But $700 different, no way. But also consider that the top tiered model has an extre ssd, more ram and a "better" CPU. So that plays into the cost difference too. Another option is the AMD model, which went on sale for just over $2400 a week ago. Given that choice, I would say the 3080 model is the way to go. The AMD model has a couple cons to it though which I'm still working on an article for. Given the choice, I'd pick AMD though, especially if you can find it significantly cheaper
Sid
September 11, 2021 at 6:05 am
Thanks Derek. Does the 3080 (160 Watts) GPU get bottlenecked by the i7 11800H CPU or is this pairing ok for the Legion 7i?
I will also be keen to understand your perspective on the difference between the AMD configuration and the Intel. Did you say you will be publishing a review of the Legion 7(16") AMD soon?
Derek Sullivan
September 11, 2021 at 12:41 pm
No chance that is bottlenecked by any of the CPU options on these models. The CPU power is pretty overkill for most games.
I should have an article up within a week or so. I've got all the data, I just need to write it. Been super busy this week.
apw100
September 11, 2021 at 6:25 pm
1) I'd say so. The i7 version is easily undervolted/overclocked to give better than i9 performance. See Tally Ho Tech's videos on YouTube for more info.
2) The RAM isn't that bad, it's more of an issue with AMD CPUs.
3) I probably wouldn't go for the 3080 16GB model if I was only gaming but I primarily use it for GPU rendering (Blender, etc) so it's worth it for me.
Mitia
September 17, 2021 at 9:11 pm
Thank you very much for the review. Based on that I just have purchased a Legion 7 16ITHg6. It arrived with empty battery. After charging, the laptop turned on. Now I notice that the Laptop discharges 10-20% battery over night in a shut down state. Do you notice such bahaviour or might it be faulty?
Cheers,
Mitia
Derek Sullivan
September 19, 2021 at 1:29 am
That's not normal at all. The battery shouldn't be discharging more than 1% a day while it's off. Battery being dead on arrival like that is a red flag something is wrong hardware wise. It could be firmware too but I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem. You could check their Discord server to see if anyone else has that issue, but if it were me I'd just RMA it.
Eric H.
September 19, 2021 at 1:01 am
Excellent review! Can you offer some advice on finding a suitable car charger or otherwise more portable solution using the USB C port? And will it extend battery life while in use, whether regular or intensive, or is it mainly for charging while not in use?
I've ordered a 7i with i7/3070/32gb/1tb. I'm currently a light gamer interested in dabbling in video/photo editing and 3D design, and wanted a basically future-proof laptop (5+ years). In light of this, what's your opinion of these specs?
Thanks for the great review!
Derek Sullivan
September 19, 2021 at 1:26 am
I actually have one coming in on Monday. If it works, I'll report back. My older PD car chargers and my PD power bank don't work with this USB port – only my newer GaN charger. Perhaps older PD protocols aren't supported?
Good specs on that model. 3080 is overkill and over priced. I think the 3060 is probably fine for almost anyone who doesn't do heavy gaming. A 3070 will be futureproof for the 5 years you are intending to use the machine though. Same with the CPU. Good luck with your new purchase!
Eric H.
September 19, 2021 at 1:56 am
Thanks! Looking forward to hearing more about the USB C charger you have on order, assuming it works.
What really sold me on this laptop (in addition to the great specs and appearance, etc.) was the new 16" 16:10 screen. Been trying out a 5i Pro with the same screen, and it's as good as everyone says.
A little disappointed with lack of USB A on either side, but maybe a non-issue if/when USB C fingerprint readers become more common. Happen to know of any good Windows Hello ones with USB C?
Thanks again for the quick response!
Derek Sullivan
September 19, 2021 at 2:06 am
Yeah, I was kind of bummed they didn't have the USB-A port on the right hand side like the 5 Pro. I really don't need 3 USB-C, especially since the right one doesn't support Thunderbolt or charging…
Never used an external fingerprint reader, sorry. I've adapted to just using the pin on this model. You can set up the laptop to boot when you open the lid, and by the time you get it open, you can type your pin in right away. Takes 2 seconds and no need to touch the power button.
Derek Sullivan
September 21, 2021 at 1:06 am
USB-C car charger I got on Amazon didn't work with the laptop. Only my phone. :(
I got the Raycono 45W one. Works great for my phone though.
Eric H.
September 21, 2021 at 4:29 am
Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of getting a Jackery 1000 or 1500, and keeping it in the car for use in a pinch.
Heck, get the solar panels that go with it, and you could game or edit video just about anywhere!
Elrondolio
September 21, 2021 at 5:30 am
You'll want a cable that has an E-marker chip in it to successfully support up to the 100W (20V at 5A) that these Legions support. I use the following cables successfully with my PD charger on my Legion 7 AMD as they do up to 100W while also supporting Gen 2 transfer speeds (10Gbps) and video (4K@60 at minimum):
Fasgear 90-Degree Type C 10Gbps speed 4K@60Hz Video Output 100W 5A Power Delivery
amazon.com/gp/product/B08FXZLHJ9
TDBT USB-C to USB-C & Thunderbolt 3 Universal Cable, 100W Power Delivery, DisplayPort DP 1.4, 4K/5K/6K/8K 60Hz Monitor Cord, 10Gbps Data Transfer
amazon.com/gp/product/B08C28GSKH
There are other cables as well, of course, but make sure whatever you pick has an E-marker chip.
For reference, here's the GaN 100W PD charger I use, it's very versatile:
Hyphen-X 100W 4-Port GaN Fast Wall Charger
amazon.com/Charger-Hyphen-X-Charging-Laptops-Compatible/dp/B08X42DRMR
Thanks so much, Derek, for your excellent review.
Eric H.
November 17, 2021 at 3:46 am
Derek, a quick note regarding USB-C charging. I purchased the Hyphen-X charger and a Fasgear cable with E-marker chip as suggested by Elrondolio below, and happy to report that it charges my 7i with 3070 great, however only while in sleep mode or turned off.
But I also tried this on a much less expensive 7i with 3050 graphics, and it was able to charge the battery while using the laptop. The convenience of being able to charge via USB-C while in use seems like an important selling point for the 3050 version, assuming one can get by with more of an entry-level GPU (by today's standards).
Eric H.
November 17, 2021 at 3:55 am
Apologies, the laptop with 3050 graphics that was able to charge via USB-C while in use was the Legion 5i Pro and not a 7i (I don't believe Lenovo even makes a 7i with 3050 graphics, but I could be wrong).
Yoong
October 4, 2021 at 7:17 pm
Hi.
Could you please answer a few questions? I’m not good with computers.
I bought a Lenovo Legion 7i 16” (2021) with Core i7-11800H. It is expected to ship on 11 October.
Custom order…
RAM: 32GB (16+16) DDR4 3200 SoDIMM
Storage
Slot 1: 2TB SSD M.2 2280 G4 TLC
Slot 2: (Greyed out on the website)
1. Do I need to replace the stock RAM? I’m not sure if it’s single or dual rank.
2. I accidentally ordered 1x2TB instead of 2x1TB.
Which do you think it’s better…
(a) sell the stock Storage in first slot and put in total 3TB (Slot 1: 1TB for OS)(Slot 2: 2TB for everything else)?
(b) leave the stock Storage as it is and put in 2TB in the second slot.
(c) something you could suggest?
Thank you for your time.
Andrei Girbea
October 6, 2021 at 11:56 am
1. Stock RAM is most likely SR, but should be fine
2. whatever works for you. you could also just keep the drive that comes default if 2GB is enough storage space for you
Guilherme Veronez
October 16, 2021 at 6:36 am
Legion 7i: Are both SSD slots PCI GEN 4? Thanks
Derek Sullivan
October 16, 2021 at 11:19 am
Yes
Michael E Elia
October 29, 2021 at 10:30 pm
Hi I have the RTX 3060 Intel version of the 7i on order. I plan to use this with my Quest 2 link cable.
I have two questions;
1) Does this configuration come with a "MUX" switch (ability to turn off hybrid mode)?
2) Does one of the USB-C ports (or USB-A for that matter) allow access directly to the dedicated graphics?
Much appreciated!
Derek Sullivan
October 30, 2021 at 12:29 am
Hi Michael,
I never had that model but I'm going to go with "probably". I know other manufacturers tend to disable the MUX on their 3060 models but my Legion 5 with a 1050Ti even has a MUX switch. I'm guessing they leave it alone with all the Legion 7 models. And if that's the case, the USB-C must be routed to the dGPU otherwise they wouldn't be able to be used for external displays at all when the iGPU is disabled.
Michael E Elia
October 30, 2021 at 5:07 am
Thanks Derek, I appreciate it. I'll make sure I post back here with results once this unit arrives.
Michael E Elia
October 30, 2021 at 5:34 am
Quick (and promising update) Finally found the spec sheet on the 3060 version from Lenovo and it clearly states that the 3060 version supports Advanced Optimus, which I "believe" is that switch I'm looking for. Sorry, I'm new to this (first gaming laptop).
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Lenovo_Legion_7_16ITHg6?tab=spec
Andrei Girbea
November 1, 2021 at 10:09 am
I can also confirm there's a MUX on all the Legion models and configurations, and the USB-C DP hooks into the dGPU
Derek Sullivan
November 5, 2021 at 7:00 pm
I'm not familiar with what software you use for that but I don't see why not. It's basically the best laptop CPU you can buy paired with the best laptop GPU.
Won
November 9, 2021 at 4:37 pm
Hi Derek Sullivan,
I read your writing well.
Thank you so much.
And tomorrow, I'll receive Legion 7 with intel i9 11980hk and RTX3080.
Is it must need to undervolting?
Derek Sullivan
November 9, 2021 at 5:29 pm
I don't think it's a must. The cooling system works fine without it. It's pretty easy to do with Intel XTU though and you get that added CPU stability for prolonged tasks. If all you're doing is gaming, there's probably little need to do it if you don't want to.
Friedrich
November 19, 2022 at 11:25 pm
Hey Derek,
is it possible to share a small step by step instructions of your stable – 70 MV undervolting via Xtu? I'm New in this topic and pretty confused of All the possibilities in this App. So what did you really change? Many thanks in advance.
Narayanan Venugopal
November 19, 2021 at 9:16 pm
I'm really interested in the R7/RTX3070/16GB RAM/1TB SSD model of the 7i and I'm getting a pretty good deal ($1850) with the extended warranty and accidental damage coverage for 2yrs added. But I'm a little anxious about the battery life, I'll be using this laptop for uni when on battery, and I'll be doing a lot of ML work as well, is the battery life manageable for that? I'd like to avoid lugging the 300W charger if I need to carry a charger. Because the current deal that I'm getting is only on the 7i (the AMD is out of stock) is it worth it? I dont think I'd mind the extra steps to get that battery life as well.
Also, if I use a GaN charger with these laptops, will they only charge the laptop if its on sleep or idle??
(note: not considering zephyrus because I've had a pretty bad experience with that lot before, the 5 pro was attractive but I like the understated looks and all metal body design of the legion 7/7i.)
Derek Sullivan
November 19, 2021 at 11:02 pm
Can't really comment on the battery life with those programs because I don't use them. But assuming it's not good enough, you can at least use a GaN charger while on the go. I never take my 300w brick anywhere but the GaN charger is always in my bag if needed. It's worked out fine for me so far. The only thing you miss out on with the GaN charger is it pretends like you're still on battery so the TDP and TGP are limited. But it's no different from operating on battery anyways so it doesn't really change much.
Narayanan Venugopal
November 20, 2021 at 9:40 am
Yeah the power on battery is more than enough for programming most of the time, but does the GaN charger actually charge the laptop when you are just browsing, or doing any word document work?
Derek Sullivan
November 20, 2021 at 1:34 pm
It does for me
Eric H.
November 29, 2021 at 6:47 am
Yes, I can also confirm now that the GaN charger DOES charge the laptop while in use, just obviously slower than the 300-watt power brick. In a previous post here, I said that it would only charge the Legion 5i Pro while in use, but I was mistaken. What made me think that was the power/charging LED above the rectangular power port would flash (indicating slower charging; what I had thought meant no charging) on either a 3060 and 3070 Legion 7i laptop, but on a Legion 5i Pro with 3050 graphics the charging LED stayed on (no flash).
Still not clear exactly why that's the case or what it might mean, but the essential takeaway here is that the 100-watt GaN charger charges all of these while in normal use (meaning not while gaming or other intensive work). Would assume that it would also slow down the rate of discharge during heavier use, but can't say that definitively.
Roland
November 27, 2021 at 8:33 am
Considering where this 7i benchmarks for gaming at 1600p native resolution, I wonder how using an external 1440p monitor would affect frame rates and thermals in comparison. I am inclined to think frame rates would increase, but if lower resolution moves processing to the CPU and the vapor cooling is engineered to dissipate heat more for the GPU than CPU then a hotter CPU could potentially thermally throttle the GPU?
Andrei Girbea
November 27, 2021 at 10:57 am
I'll pitch in. Temperatures should be similar and the gain in framerates rather minimal, around 5% or so. But, if you close the lid and put the laptop in a vertical stand, I'd expect the temperatures to improve.
You could check out this article on the L5P, where we tested both 1600p and external 1440p, and included temperature/perf logs for both cases: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/51617-lenovo-legion-5-pro-review-rtx3060/#a5
Andrew C
November 30, 2021 at 3:10 pm
Fantastic review and I am on the verge of ordering one of these! I notice that the max RAM is listed as being 32 GB, which seems a bit low given the processor and HM570 chipset (the Gigabyte Aero 17 YD, for example, has the same chipset and processor and supports 64 GB). My work laptop is a basic Lenovo ideapad 310 with 24 GB of RAM working fine when the max is listed as 16 GB. I don't suppose you have tested your laptop with 64 GB of RAM, have you? I plan on using it for gaming, but also for video editing and some CAD work, so the extra RAM would make a big difference.
Andrei Girbea
November 30, 2021 at 11:28 pm
64 GB should work. Just make sure to read some reviews and Reddit posts for the exact memory that others have installed, to avoid any compatibility surprises.
Andrew Clifford
December 1, 2021 at 12:17 am
Thank you! I found the Reddit posts after I posted my question (should have googled first!!), so I went ahead and ordered. Now for 3 impatient weeks!!!
Tom
January 4, 2022 at 4:37 pm
How to stretch gaming picture vertically to get rid of black bars up and down? Some games don't suport 16:10 proportions. I'm ok with vertically stretched (deformed) objects.
Derek Sullivan
January 4, 2022 at 6:35 pm
You could just set the in game resolution to a 16:9. Most of the time it stretches it automatically
Thijs
January 20, 2022 at 9:15 pm
Hi Derek, Super review!
Question: do you know if I would be able to connect 3 external monitors (each 2560×1440) to the legion 7, and have the laptop lid closed while using those 3 monitors? (for a work at home setup). Any suggestions as to what dock or converter cables would be needed? (I would be aiming for the intel I7 model with RTX3080).
Thanks!
Derek Sullivan
January 23, 2022 at 3:22 am
The laptop is fine to use with the lid closed. You might have to lid the lid to wake it though – I never messed with the wake from USB option and the power button is on the inside. It only requires a slight lift though and you can close if right back when it boots. As for three monitors, I have never tested this. I know there are enough outputs and theoretically they should work fine. But you'd have to rely on using both the left and rear USB-C as thunderbolt connections. These all should support QHD fine but their ability to go above 60hz is unknown to me. Thunderbolt 4 "should" be compatible though.
Thijs
January 29, 2022 at 5:50 pm
Thanks for the feedback!
Csebák Richárd
February 16, 2022 at 1:51 pm
when will be this configuration available with rtx 4080?thanks a lot.
Andrei Girbea
February 16, 2022 at 3:06 pm
that chip is not coming anytime soon.
Thomas
February 16, 2022 at 7:34 pm
Thank you very much for this review. I'm upgrading from my 6 year old MSI GTX980M laptop. i'll buy the Legion 7i but I have 2 questions that I hope you will answer.
1. Can I play Cyberpunk, Elden Ring, Starfield, Tales of Arise, Elder Scrolls Online on max settings in native resolution?
2. How will FPS be in the above games if I connect an external (27 inch, 2K) monitor to the laptop?
3. Will this laptop burn down if I play 4-6 hours on it daily for years or is it designed to handle that?
Have a good day.
Andrei Girbea
February 16, 2022 at 9:28 pm
We haven't tested those games. This is a well-cooled laptop and it should age well
bonsi
May 11, 2022 at 4:30 pm
Thanks for posting such an informative article. It’s to the point and chock-full of content. I feel like I went from noob to expert in a few minutes!
cam
May 15, 2022 at 6:09 am
64 GB should work. Just make sure to read some reviews and Reddit posts for the exact memory that others have installed, to avoid any compatibility surprises. thanks for sharing this article.
cam
May 17, 2022 at 6:07 pm
I can also confirm there's a MUX on all the Legion models and configurations, and the USB-C DP hooks into the dGPU. thanks for sharing this article.
Kyle
June 30, 2022 at 11:05 pm
Hi there going to buy my first gaming laptop due to working away a lot and setting up the xbox every time isn’t cutting it for me. Trying to learn and do some research before diving in head first and I like this one I think. I have found another laptop for a Similar price but with newer i9 processor and 3080ti but it’s a 17” median erazor x30. Struggling to find reviews for them in English there’s a few in German but no use. I’m wondering if it may have trouble staying cool as it seems to be a cheaper built Lenovo effectively. Any help would be much appreciated cheers
Andrei Girbea
July 1, 2022 at 8:47 am
I've no experience with that chassis, but you can use Google Translate on those German articles.
That's a barebone design and it could also be sold in other markets as XPG, Vapor, XOTIC, or Eluktronics. perhaps you can try and figure out the equivalents from those brands, and find some reviews that should help.
Olivia
December 6, 2024 at 4:37 pm
I can also confirm that all Legion models and configurations have a MUX, and the USB-C DP connects to the dGPU. Thanks for sharing this article!