Asus Vivobook Pro 14X OLED review (M7400QE model, AMD Ryzen)
36 Comments
205
September 13, 2021 at 3:57 pm
Great review. One thing I still miss with OLED reviews: Since OLEDs have mostly different subpixel arrangements compared to IPS displays, this should be mentioned. Even on such high res screens, I see a difference in text clarity. Not that I can see single pixels but there is still a notable difference between an UHD 14" IPS vs OLED with less subpixels. Former is just significantly sharper, finer, crispier.
Thanks. I'm seeing the same at FHD resolution, but the difference is small to none to my eyes at QHD and above. Is that UHD OLED touch by any chance? perhaps the touch layer might be the culprit?
Yes, it is. I am talking about the current gen Zenbook with an UHD OLED. Not sure if it is the touch layer. The difference is nuanced and as long you do not see the UHD IPS counterpart, you think, hey all fine, sharp and no pixel. But once you see the UHD IPS you see a distinct difference in text clarity. Hard to describe, would love to do a comparison with a macro lense in order to be able to count the subpixels haha.
Because even if it's the touch layer, the OLED still lacks 1/3 or even more of subpixels…
Interesting. I'll try to look into it as well once I get the chance.
Kurt
September 14, 2021 at 1:38 am
Current gen ZenBooks use 2nd Gen Samsung OLED (both 16:9 FHD and UHD) which use Pentile matrix so there is noticeable "dirtiness" of the display up close.
The new 3rd Gen OLED used here with the VivoBook Pro and other laptops like Dell XPS 15 have fixed this issue by using a different sub-pixel pattern while not identical to IPS, almost completely resolves the former graininess of static images and lack of text sharpness.
This has also been confirmed by Shortcircuit YT channel.
While the subpixel arrangement looks even more weird than ever the reviewer feels better with it than with previous models, so this is some good news. The model is from April. Still IDK, this is a 16:9 FHD and I wonder how and if newer UHD OLEDs will match the clarity and crispiness of UHD IPS'. I still believe that latter give you better quality on 13 to 14 inch, I mean it's even better than an offset print.
Jacob
September 19, 2021 at 7:17 am
I haven't used a ZenBook, but I've used OLED laptops from Alienware, Razer, and HP since the OLED Alienware 13 was released in 2017. All of them used Samsung panels and none had a Pentile matrix. The subpixel layout was unusual, but each pixel had its own distinct (not shared) R, G, and B subpixel. There are review sites that have very clear images of the layout. It seems strange that ASUS would opt for a Pentile layout when non-Pentile layouts were already available.
The HP models had significant graininess that the Alienware and Razer models did not, despite all being touch screens.
What's interesting here is that I compared the exact same panel in a non-touch and touch variant. The touch was grainy, the non-touch was perfectly smooth. Hence, in this case the graininess is added by the touch layer.
Jacob
September 19, 2021 at 12:42 pm
I forgot I also used the OLED version of the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga, which was also touch but didn't seem grainy.
The HP models weren't just grainy – they had tiny visible red dots on white backgrounds from the touch layer.
I'm not sure what the policy of linking to other sites is, but the majority of OLED laptops have had Samsung panels with the following RGB, non-Pentile pixel structure (see the image near the top):
anandtech.com/show/10697/the-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-yoga-review/6
However, it does seem some ASUS models use panels with a different structure (see the "Display – OLED technology" section):
notebookcheck.net/Asus-ZenBook-Flip-13-in-review-Compact-convertible-with-great-OLED-display.550248.0.html
I don't have the right microscope to check out the pixel structure on these 16:10 OLEDs in the late-2021 ZenBooks and VivoBooks, so we'll have to wait for others to do it. They might be different than on the Flip and other OLED ZenBooks launched earlier in the year.
Lorenzo
July 25, 2022 at 5:43 pm
Hi, thanks for the thorough and complete review. I'm currently trying the same model as in the review but I am getting far worse battery life. You mention "better battery mode" in the review but I only find a "best power efficiency" under win11 settings. Could you please clarify? thanks a lot and keep up the good work :)
Check if there's any process spiking up the CPU with daily use. I use the basic profiles, in Windows or in the myAsus control software
Kurt
September 15, 2021 at 4:59 pm
No, the 3rd Generation Samsung OLEDs are all 16:10, 3K, which is used on major OEMs like Dell, Lenovo and ASUS. That particular 16:9 2K display on the Galaxy Book Pro laptop is custom designed for Samsung's own laptops and they do not mass produce it for other manufacturers to source. It has been discovered to cause blurriness issues displaying text due to Windows Cleartype not playing well with the OLED panel's new subpixel matrix, source: "ColorScale" – popular Korean Tech-YouTube channel.
If you want a proper OLED without text and static image issues, your options are limited to newest laptops like the Vivobook that sources the 3rd Gen technology.
There appears to be a grave mistake in your review.
According to the HWinfo screenshot you provided, the laptop is NOT running 4266MHz LPDDR4X, but 3200MHz LPDDR4. Indeed, in the screenshot, the RAM is clocked at 1598.7MHz, making it 3200MHz when the double data rate (DDR) is accounted for. This is consistent with the listing on Asus' website, where they state the laptop is running LPDDR4 RAM.
LPDDR4 and LPDDR4X are two completely different standards. The former maxes out at 3200MHz while the latter goes up to 4266MHz. Again, the former uses 1.1V while the latter uses only 0.6V, making it far more power efficient.
My comment might seem like a nitpick, but since Asus offers similar Vivobook Pro models with iGPUs only, the difference between LPDDR4 and LPDDR4X means in practice a 20/30% performance difference in games, and an extra half an hour of battery life when using LPDDR4X, without even speaking of the CPU performance improvements from faster memory in certain applications. For a buyer this can mean expecting the best iGPU performance available right now (as this review leads us to believe), when the laptop is in fact only using LPDDR4.
Please confirm whether the laptop is indeed using 3200MHz LPDDR4 as Asus quotes on their website, or if they made a mistake, and the laptop is in fact running 4266MHz LPDDR4X.
OLED panels use PWM at 60Hz on most laptops, but it's not really the same as on IPS panels. I plan on having a more detailed article about it. however, if you're sensitive to flickering, there's a fair chance this will bother you.
10 bit smile on my face THX for the super review _\|/_
Gr. from Amsterdam NL
Ummu
December 30, 2021 at 3:19 pm
great review! anyway, can you help me decide which laptop i should get? iam really confused which one to get for my budget :( . So iam a college student that looking for a laptop that light but has good performance,battery life, have a good heat control, and great build quality ( can last 3-5 years), im doing basic task like students did, office, reading pdfs, etc, and also video editing using fillmora & adobe premiere pro (not really 4k, just fhd), some graphic design (adobe illustrator, photoshop,etc), and i do a bit of gaming like CS GO, Valorant,PUBG (but not so often) and The Sims 4,sim city in my free time, i dont play heavy games. My budget is around 1100-1200 USD. I was about to get the Lenovo Ideapad slim 5 pro Ryzen 7 5800H with RTX 3050 GPU, 16 gb ram 100% srgb, but sadly it's already unaivalable in my country due to the high demand:( so, now im about to get the Asus Vivobook 14x OLED I7 11370H 16GB 512SSD RTX3050 with 2 years premium warranty, the asus has pros on the oled screen but i like the ir security camera from lenovo lol but nevermind. i was considering the Zephyrus G14 but for my budget it only can get the GTX 1650, 8 gb ram, ryzen 7 5800hs, 120 hz screen, official 2 year warranty too, there is an other option with the same price g14, gtx 1660ti, ryzen 7 4800hs,16 gb ram but it's unoffical warranty, so im lil bit afraid in the future, it's hard to claim the warranty, since it's not official :( so can you help me decide which one is suitable for me? or any better suggestions? thankyou!. btw sorry for my so so english :(
Hey…
I am confused between vivobook prox 14(r9 + 3050) and the g14 2021(r9 + 3050).
Primary use case is for programming and ocassional light gaming. I am inclined towards 16:10 screen and bigger trackpad of vivobook.
Which one has better battery life? And is the 3050 in the vivobook that weak compared to g14? the g14 is roughly $250 costly in my country.
the G14 is singnificantly faster, especially on GPU loads
Myron
August 8, 2022 at 5:03 am
Deciding between the Acer Swift X 14 (Ryzen 7 5825U, RTX 3050Ti, $1249 CAD) and Asus VivoBook Pro 14X (Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3050, $1299 CAD on sale).
Not entirely sure about the difference in CPU and GPU here. But having read both your reviews, I'm leaning toward the Asus because of the screen, cooling, sound, and wifi. I read in other places that the Acer had superior battery life and they made claims of 9.5 hour battery life (14 hours on a 5700U, RTX 3050 variant – $1099). However, your reviews indicate Asus has the edge.
What do you think in terms of the CPU/GPU and overall better laptop?
The Asus is a more powerful implementation with better cooling, as shown in the reviews. In theory, yes, the Swift should have an edge in battery life, but in real-life both AMD platforms scale well with casual use. Thus, if battery life is a major criteria in your decision, I'd go with the unit that offers the largest capacity battery.
Overall, I'd lean towards the Asus at the same price point. Is there an OLED screen on the VivoBook, or is it IPS?
Ok glad we have the same perspective. The VivoBook is OLED, Swift is an IPS. I went to Best Buy today to take a look but they had neither model available for display or instores. They did have the ROG G14, which had a very solid build, looks great, and good performance. Hoping to get my hands on the other 2 notebooks before I take the plunge!
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205
September 13, 2021 at 3:57 pm
Great review. One thing I still miss with OLED reviews: Since OLEDs have mostly different subpixel arrangements compared to IPS displays, this should be mentioned. Even on such high res screens, I see a difference in text clarity. Not that I can see single pixels but there is still a notable difference between an UHD 14" IPS vs OLED with less subpixels. Former is just significantly sharper, finer, crispier.
Andrei Girbea
September 13, 2021 at 4:57 pm
Thanks. I'm seeing the same at FHD resolution, but the difference is small to none to my eyes at QHD and above. Is that UHD OLED touch by any chance? perhaps the touch layer might be the culprit?
205
September 13, 2021 at 6:21 pm
Yes, it is. I am talking about the current gen Zenbook with an UHD OLED. Not sure if it is the touch layer. The difference is nuanced and as long you do not see the UHD IPS counterpart, you think, hey all fine, sharp and no pixel. But once you see the UHD IPS you see a distinct difference in text clarity. Hard to describe, would love to do a comparison with a macro lense in order to be able to count the subpixels haha.
Because even if it's the touch layer, the OLED still lacks 1/3 or even more of subpixels…
Andrei Girbea
September 13, 2021 at 6:43 pm
Interesting. I'll try to look into it as well once I get the chance.
Kurt
September 14, 2021 at 1:38 am
Current gen ZenBooks use 2nd Gen Samsung OLED (both 16:9 FHD and UHD) which use Pentile matrix so there is noticeable "dirtiness" of the display up close.
The new 3rd Gen OLED used here with the VivoBook Pro and other laptops like Dell XPS 15 have fixed this issue by using a different sub-pixel pattern while not identical to IPS, almost completely resolves the former graininess of static images and lack of text sharpness.
This has also been confirmed by Shortcircuit YT channel.
205
September 15, 2021 at 1:06 pm
You are referring to this https://youtu.be/5GBcMVwp0nY?t=538 ?
While the subpixel arrangement looks even more weird than ever the reviewer feels better with it than with previous models, so this is some good news. The model is from April. Still IDK, this is a 16:9 FHD and I wonder how and if newer UHD OLEDs will match the clarity and crispiness of UHD IPS'. I still believe that latter give you better quality on 13 to 14 inch, I mean it's even better than an offset print.
Jacob
September 19, 2021 at 7:17 am
I haven't used a ZenBook, but I've used OLED laptops from Alienware, Razer, and HP since the OLED Alienware 13 was released in 2017. All of them used Samsung panels and none had a Pentile matrix. The subpixel layout was unusual, but each pixel had its own distinct (not shared) R, G, and B subpixel. There are review sites that have very clear images of the layout. It seems strange that ASUS would opt for a Pentile layout when non-Pentile layouts were already available.
The HP models had significant graininess that the Alienware and Razer models did not, despite all being touch screens.
Andrei Girbea
September 19, 2021 at 11:06 am
What's interesting here is that I compared the exact same panel in a non-touch and touch variant. The touch was grainy, the non-touch was perfectly smooth. Hence, in this case the graininess is added by the touch layer.
Jacob
September 19, 2021 at 12:42 pm
I forgot I also used the OLED version of the Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Yoga, which was also touch but didn't seem grainy.
The HP models weren't just grainy – they had tiny visible red dots on white backgrounds from the touch layer.
I'm not sure what the policy of linking to other sites is, but the majority of OLED laptops have had Samsung panels with the following RGB, non-Pentile pixel structure (see the image near the top):
anandtech.com/show/10697/the-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-yoga-review/6
However, it does seem some ASUS models use panels with a different structure (see the "Display – OLED technology" section):
notebookcheck.net/Asus-ZenBook-Flip-13-in-review-Compact-convertible-with-great-OLED-display.550248.0.html
Andrei Girbea
September 19, 2021 at 1:17 pm
I don't have the right microscope to check out the pixel structure on these 16:10 OLEDs in the late-2021 ZenBooks and VivoBooks, so we'll have to wait for others to do it. They might be different than on the Flip and other OLED ZenBooks launched earlier in the year.
Lorenzo
July 25, 2022 at 5:43 pm
Hi, thanks for the thorough and complete review. I'm currently trying the same model as in the review but I am getting far worse battery life. You mention "better battery mode" in the review but I only find a "best power efficiency" under win11 settings. Could you please clarify? thanks a lot and keep up the good work :)
Andrei Girbea
July 25, 2022 at 6:00 pm
Check if there's any process spiking up the CPU with daily use. I use the basic profiles, in Windows or in the myAsus control software
Kurt
September 15, 2021 at 4:59 pm
No, the 3rd Generation Samsung OLEDs are all 16:10, 3K, which is used on major OEMs like Dell, Lenovo and ASUS. That particular 16:9 2K display on the Galaxy Book Pro laptop is custom designed for Samsung's own laptops and they do not mass produce it for other manufacturers to source. It has been discovered to cause blurriness issues displaying text due to Windows Cleartype not playing well with the OLED panel's new subpixel matrix, source: "ColorScale" – popular Korean Tech-YouTube channel.
If you want a proper OLED without text and static image issues, your options are limited to newest laptops like the Vivobook that sources the 3rd Gen technology.
Andrei Girbea
September 16, 2021 at 10:26 am
Kurt, I appreciate your insights on these new OLED panels. I wasn't aware of the changes
Kurt
September 16, 2021 at 10:51 am
No problem, keep up the good work :)
Corentin Robin
October 18, 2021 at 4:07 pm
There appears to be a grave mistake in your review.
According to the HWinfo screenshot you provided, the laptop is NOT running 4266MHz LPDDR4X, but 3200MHz LPDDR4. Indeed, in the screenshot, the RAM is clocked at 1598.7MHz, making it 3200MHz when the double data rate (DDR) is accounted for. This is consistent with the listing on Asus' website, where they state the laptop is running LPDDR4 RAM.
LPDDR4 and LPDDR4X are two completely different standards. The former maxes out at 3200MHz while the latter goes up to 4266MHz. Again, the former uses 1.1V while the latter uses only 0.6V, making it far more power efficient.
My comment might seem like a nitpick, but since Asus offers similar Vivobook Pro models with iGPUs only, the difference between LPDDR4 and LPDDR4X means in practice a 20/30% performance difference in games, and an extra half an hour of battery life when using LPDDR4X, without even speaking of the CPU performance improvements from faster memory in certain applications. For a buyer this can mean expecting the best iGPU performance available right now (as this review leads us to believe), when the laptop is in fact only using LPDDR4.
Please confirm whether the laptop is indeed using 3200MHz LPDDR4 as Asus quotes on their website, or if they made a mistake, and the laptop is in fact running 4266MHz LPDDR4X.
Andrei Girbea
October 25, 2021 at 10:48 am
Yes, the memory is DDR4-3200. Sry for the mistake. updated.
Emiliano
November 6, 2021 at 5:25 pm
Where do you get those laptops? I tried to find it everywhere and it does not seems to exist at all
KY
November 29, 2021 at 3:03 am
couldn't find this 14X pro anywhere… has it not released yet?
Rifky
December 3, 2021 at 11:23 am
It's already out in Indonesia, but it's using Intel CPU
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c69k
December 18, 2021 at 4:27 pm
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Mk
December 16, 2021 at 2:10 am
The review says pwm is to be discussed but I'm not finding it anywhere. Any additional info on whether the panel uses it and what frequency?
Andrei Girbea
December 16, 2021 at 11:09 am
OLED panels use PWM at 60Hz on most laptops, but it's not really the same as on IPS panels. I plan on having a more detailed article about it. however, if you're sensitive to flickering, there's a fair chance this will bother you.
c69k
December 18, 2021 at 3:17 pm
Hi, THX for an excellent review. Please is this OLED display 10 bit? (visible in advanced display settings). I can not find this info anywhere.
Andrei Girbea
December 19, 2021 at 12:48 pm
Yes, it's 10 bit
c69k
December 19, 2021 at 1:29 pm
10 bit smile on my face THX for the super review _\|/_
Gr. from Amsterdam NL
Ummu
December 30, 2021 at 3:19 pm
great review! anyway, can you help me decide which laptop i should get? iam really confused which one to get for my budget :( . So iam a college student that looking for a laptop that light but has good performance,battery life, have a good heat control, and great build quality ( can last 3-5 years), im doing basic task like students did, office, reading pdfs, etc, and also video editing using fillmora & adobe premiere pro (not really 4k, just fhd), some graphic design (adobe illustrator, photoshop,etc), and i do a bit of gaming like CS GO, Valorant,PUBG (but not so often) and The Sims 4,sim city in my free time, i dont play heavy games. My budget is around 1100-1200 USD. I was about to get the Lenovo Ideapad slim 5 pro Ryzen 7 5800H with RTX 3050 GPU, 16 gb ram 100% srgb, but sadly it's already unaivalable in my country due to the high demand:( so, now im about to get the Asus Vivobook 14x OLED I7 11370H 16GB 512SSD RTX3050 with 2 years premium warranty, the asus has pros on the oled screen but i like the ir security camera from lenovo lol but nevermind. i was considering the Zephyrus G14 but for my budget it only can get the GTX 1650, 8 gb ram, ryzen 7 5800hs, 120 hz screen, official 2 year warranty too, there is an other option with the same price g14, gtx 1660ti, ryzen 7 4800hs,16 gb ram but it's unoffical warranty, so im lil bit afraid in the future, it's hard to claim the warranty, since it's not official :( so can you help me decide which one is suitable for me? or any better suggestions? thankyou!. btw sorry for my so so english :(
Andrei Girbea
December 30, 2021 at 4:06 pm
That IdeaPad 5 Pro or this Vivobook seem right for you. The Acer Swift X might also be worth a look, if available.
Henrich
February 17, 2022 at 10:59 am
Can I get this same laptop with same CPU and GPU but with 32 gb of ram
Shrihari
July 12, 2022 at 5:11 pm
Hey…
I am confused between vivobook prox 14(r9 + 3050) and the g14 2021(r9 + 3050).
Primary use case is for programming and ocassional light gaming. I am inclined towards 16:10 screen and bigger trackpad of vivobook.
Which one has better battery life? And is the 3050 in the vivobook that weak compared to g14? the g14 is roughly $250 costly in my country.
Andrei Girbea
July 13, 2022 at 9:03 am
you'll find the reviews for both on the site, with all the benchmarks results and battery results. Use the search.
Shrihari
July 19, 2022 at 6:04 am
I did and now have a small doubt… G14 is 250 dollars costlier than vivobook pro in my country. Is the extra performance in g14 worth the extra money?
I am play games like valorant and cod warzone and watchdogs 3
Andrei Girbea
July 19, 2022 at 11:53 am
the G14 is singnificantly faster, especially on GPU loads
Myron
August 8, 2022 at 5:03 am
Deciding between the Acer Swift X 14 (Ryzen 7 5825U, RTX 3050Ti, $1249 CAD) and Asus VivoBook Pro 14X (Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3050, $1299 CAD on sale).
Not entirely sure about the difference in CPU and GPU here. But having read both your reviews, I'm leaning toward the Asus because of the screen, cooling, sound, and wifi. I read in other places that the Acer had superior battery life and they made claims of 9.5 hour battery life (14 hours on a 5700U, RTX 3050 variant – $1099). However, your reviews indicate Asus has the edge.
What do you think in terms of the CPU/GPU and overall better laptop?
Andrei Girbea
August 8, 2022 at 10:38 am
The Asus is a more powerful implementation with better cooling, as shown in the reviews. In theory, yes, the Swift should have an edge in battery life, but in real-life both AMD platforms scale well with casual use. Thus, if battery life is a major criteria in your decision, I'd go with the unit that offers the largest capacity battery.
Overall, I'd lean towards the Asus at the same price point. Is there an OLED screen on the VivoBook, or is it IPS?
Myron
August 9, 2022 at 4:15 am
Ok glad we have the same perspective. The VivoBook is OLED, Swift is an IPS. I went to Best Buy today to take a look but they had neither model available for display or instores. They did have the ROG G14, which had a very solid build, looks great, and good performance. Hoping to get my hands on the other 2 notebooks before I take the plunge!