Asus ROG Flow Z13 review, one month later (2025 GZ302EA, Ryzen AI Max+ 395)

15 Comments

  1. Piotr

    March 24, 2025 at 9:44 pm

    I've seen the first listings for 64GB HP ZBook Ultra G1a in Europe at 3000 EUR :) "Prosumer" laptop tax is a bit absurd with this one. Realistically, the first time since never the best value for me would be an M4 Macbook Air or Lenovo Lunar Lake laptop while Z13 tempting with that SoC at a higher price (and annoyances of using it under Linux) ;)

    • Andrei Girbea

      March 25, 2025 at 10:34 am

      ZBooks have always been extremely expensive, especially over here in Europe.

      The MBA is something else, but hard to beat in its class as long as you're fine with the OS and some of its ergonomic quirks (limited screen angle, 60 hz panel, limited IO, keyboard layout for the non-US model). I'm using an MBA M2 as my travelling laptop and I'm happy with it for light use.

      • Piotr

        March 25, 2025 at 10:58 am

        For webdev I run a kubernetes cluster which is RAM and storage intensive but the CPU load is all-core low, going up only for node projects, not for Python ones ;) Different keyboard/OS is a thing, although I'm using Linux daily so it's doable to hammer the desktop down into something more usable.

  2. will blake

    March 24, 2025 at 9:58 pm

    I dislike the device but wanna buy this chip.

  3. Yeshy

    March 25, 2025 at 11:16 am

    Can you verify it actually has native HDR? If it's the same-ish panel as previous ones it won't

    Would've been nice to get some kinda HDR supporting OLED / miniLED…

    In my opinion this has been a letdown for me; though the CPU performance is great:

    It doesn't exceed, sometimes worse than the predecessor in games / GPU load

    It's not much more efficient than Strix Point to use it to do work or game on battery (I could be wrong here on the CPU side actually)

    The battery times should be significantly better imo, it's not bad in isolation but do you get better "Whrs per Hr" of battery?

    RDNA4, whether it comes to laptops or not, seems to be much more efficient (especially when power limited/fps capped) and supports FSR4 (not backporting is sad, not sure if the NPU can help here)

    I wish they offered it with the 385 SKU (and with 64GB RAM? I guess that's not happening unfortunately)

    • Piotr

      March 26, 2025 at 10:40 am

      Video HDR something and no actual HDR.

  4. Aydin

    March 27, 2025 at 5:20 pm

    Thanks for the review! Do you have any sense of the quality of ASUS software, and/or the long term build quality?

    I have a 2021 version of the Asus ROG flow X13, purchased in July 2021. I loved the concept, but have had a torrid time with the quality. Among other things:
    1) firmware consistently is buggy, my laptop's keyboard lights will randomly flash on and off even if sleeping. The fans will also randomly turn on and off while sleeping.
    2) my charger broke in 2023, forcing me to buy a new one
    3) over 2024, the screen has been slowly breaking. It appears the connectivity between the screen and the body is loosening, so often it will boot up but give a black screen (or at best, 0 backlight). I've had to apply significant pressure on the back of the screen trying to "push" it back in to reconnect. It's getting worse and I am sure it will completely break in the next 6 months.
    4) in addition, the screen often "goes manic". I can see it registering "ghost" touches all over the screen. This basically makes it monetarily unusable, though it rarely lasts long.

    I contacted Asus about this and they basically told me "good luck, you're past warranty".

    I've noticed you've reviewed many ASUS devices in the past. Is this been something you have ever experienced?

    I love the concept and feel like this or the ProArt is still the best computer for my needs. But honestly, before this I had a Surface Pro which lasted me a good 6 years without issue, so having this many problems with Asus makes me hesitant to purchase another device from them.

    • Andrei Girbea

      March 27, 2025 at 5:56 pm

      Hi.

      I've used hundreds of Asus devices over the years and had some issues with them. However, most of the aspect that you are mentioning, and that others might run into, happen longer down the road, after a year or two or more of use, and unfortunately it's impossible for someone like to estimate these sorts of things, as I usually jump between devices after a few weeks

      Now, the forums are filled with various reliability complaints on Asus products, but idk if these issue occur more often on Asus devices than on other devices.

      What I can tell is that I have an Asus ROG Scar 18 that I'm using daily, and have been over the last 2 years. Ran into both software problems, which I mostly fixed with a clean windows install and then using G-Helper as the control app, instead of Armoury Crate. But even this still throws bugs sometimes. For instance, the latest update affected F keys somehow and now they don't always register properly.

      I'm also having an issue with one of the screen hinges that's starting cranking after a year or so, despite the fact that I rarely close the screen. So yeah, not a flawless experience either.

      So in the end, what I'd do is maybe get extended warranty if that's an options and is available at a fair price. Over here you can generally get up to 5 years. I'd do that regardless or brand though. Things just break these days. Perhaps QC isn't great, perhaps it's planned obsolesce, but that's just a reality that I came to accept.

    • Kris

      April 12, 2025 at 11:09 am

      Hi. Thanks for the headsup. So what did you decide? Pro or Flow z13? Iam torn between new surface pro for business (intel) & Flow z13. I need a portable device for work and productivity. I don't game. But unable to decide between the two!

  5. Catalin Damian

    March 31, 2025 at 2:08 pm

    I have been using the Z13 for the past 2 weeks. It is mostly great. I only have a few issues that are software related: sometimes the RGB stops working, or the screen flickers. The speakers are slightly better than in the previous Z13.

    What I want to mention is that I have been doing some benchmarking on it using Shadow of the Tomb Raider and the performance using the type-c charger and the 200w charger is identical on manual mode.

    • Andrei Girbea

      March 31, 2025 at 2:21 pm

      1% lows as well? I got seeing similar framerates as well, but lower 1% lows and some occasional stuttering.

      Haven't tested Shadow of Tomb specifically on USB-C, but a few other titles.

      What happens when the RGB stops working? Need to restart the tablet? Armoury Crate can be buggy and I'd especially expect quirks with a new platform like this one. I had RGB issues on my Scar as well and in the end dumped Armoury Crate for GT Helper. Worth a try, although not sure how well it works with this AMD hardware. Worst case you put back Armoury Crate

  6. Altandmain

    April 2, 2025 at 11:04 pm

    The Ryzen Max 395 chip is by far the most important part of the laptop and I hope that we will see more laptops with the chip.

    Overall, I found the device to be lacking. I think that the IPS display is not ideal, especially not considering the high price – this should be with a Mini-LED display. Not having good speakers is also disappointing. The bad camera is not ideal either for video calls.

    The other issue is that the tablet can't be used very easily in one's lap. The weight being distributed on thr screen prevents that. Finally, I wish the laptop had a haptic trackpad.

    Overall, the Ryzen chip is interesting and gets the best performance to power ratio outside of the Apple chips, but the tablet form factor is less than ideal. Let's see if we can get a decent traditional laptop with the 395 chip.

  7. Henry

    April 11, 2025 at 12:10 am

    Is there any chance this supports higher than 100w USB-C PD power? I know higher specs exist with PD 3.1 but I can't find any info on if Asus implemnted this. I know that likely means "no" but Im curious if the 140w chargers on the market designed for Macbook Pro 16" will charge/power this above 100w? Any chance you have one (both Apple and UGreen sell them, I'm sure others do too). and could test? I have one of these on order, coming eventually, curious if I should invest in a 140w charger for better performance when away from the official 200w brick at home.

    • Andrei Girbea

      April 11, 2025 at 8:57 am

      as far as I understand, it only supports 100W. I didn't have a 140W ROG charger at the time, but I do in the meantime. Maybe I get tot test it, I need to get the sample Z13 though, I don't have it anymore. But it still works fine even on 100W PD, with small exceptions.

  8. NikoB

    April 11, 2025 at 1:29 pm

    https://www.techspot.com/news/107497-amd-confirms-zen-5-silicon-also-vulnerable-entrysign.html
    As I initially assumed – AMD lied that Zen5 is not affected. And the commentator there correctly noted that this has already become a trend – first they release fast but leaky processors, and then "suddenly" discovering the holes they fix them, but this leads to a significant decrease in performance.

    I would recommend retesting all Zen5 series after installing the patches. But we see the cold-blooded calculation of such unscrupulous manufacturers in the modern world, that professional testers and review sites have often already lost access to test samples, because they were forced to return them and they need to somehow get them again or buy them…

    This is a complete analogue of Dieselgate, but processor manufacturers do not actually bear any legal responsibility for the decrease in performance to tens of millions of buyers. It's time to put an end to this at the state level…

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